frank lolcat paynter and jeneane solve the challenges of web 2.0 using social software from google.com.
from g-chat, sat eve:
Frank: my face is all asymetrical too
me: i think it's endemic
Frank: one eye is on the end of my nose
me: me too
my brain is in my butt too
Frank: and my left ear is where my eye should be
me: i thought so
it's all so complicated
Frank: very
me: let's just start again
Frank: first we have to get people to keep blogrolling
me: right
YES
what's WRONG with people
(they don't take care of their pets either)
Frank: surfing is inconvenient if you have to keep hitting the back button
they dissect their pets and they trash their blogrolls
me: amen
Frank: my dog is now a counter-surfing crime dog
me: stumbleupon will sell for like 9 trillion dollars
but fucking blogrolls are free
idiots
Frank: she goes after chocolate
me: she's smart
Frank: exactly about stumbleupon
and that's why the monitizers are trying to influence us away
me: i think web 1.0 tools that are still around - like haloscan and YACCS (no support anymore but still works) and blogrolling.com should automatically get 10 trillion dollars
just for putting up with all the assholes coming after them
get like a pass to disney or something
Frank: I think they should bulldoze oreilly whq and re-plant the orchard there in Sebastopol
it was a nice place before they wigged out technophiles moved in
me: yeah
what you say
Frank: and silicon valley
replant the walnut trees and shit
get scoble out of there
me: blogrolling.com valley
rename it
Frank: rename it web 1.0 valley
me: call it like trees and stuff valley
Frank: Gilroy used to be the garlic capital of the world
me: garlic valley
Frank: now it's all subdivisions and shit
zackly
me: people probably dissecting frogs
Frank: and there was artichoke valley
me: not taking care of their pets
worried about their assymmetricality
Frank: wonder how many of those they still grow?
me: frogs?
Frank: wonder if frogs have all their eyes on one side of their headds
like halibuts
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November 03, 2007
User Generated Companies
You know i'm no fan of the web 2.0 nomenclature, wherein resides my least favorite 'user-generated content'. However, the UGC thang has caught on--that dog CAN hunt it appears. We have gone from being consumers (think pacman) to users (think heroine) in what seems to be a blink of the eye. It all means the same things: we are the targeted.
One thing, though, is that as producers, we are generating stuff. Like entire companies. In my line of work, I have to confess, it makes me smile when an ordinary user becomes an all-of-a-sudden, web20-CEO-founder-speaker-thought-leader. Few months ago the guy liked catching and gutting fish. Now he's the ceo of a well-funded social network called fishpals. Okay so I'm exaggerating. But not buy much.
The thing that makes web 2.o palatable is that regular people who like to do regular things -- goofballs like you and me -- are building companies around stuff they like to do. Now this happened the first time around SORT OF, but during the dot-com days, you remember, it was all about e-commerce. How do I sell you shit without you having to leave your chair. And on the B2B side, it was supply chain optimization really: how do we get shit to and from each other cheaper/faster/better using les internetz.
So, yeah, it's a bubble. Sure it's a bubble. But at least we get to play around with stuff. We have user generated users (friends of friends of friends trying other friends' products/services) and user generated companies (companies started by people formerly known as users) creating a service for every possible hobby/passion/want/need/wish.
Fascinating how it can be so interesting and so damn annoying at the same time.
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One thing, though, is that as producers, we are generating stuff. Like entire companies. In my line of work, I have to confess, it makes me smile when an ordinary user becomes an all-of-a-sudden, web20-CEO-founder-speaker-thought-leader. Few months ago the guy liked catching and gutting fish. Now he's the ceo of a well-funded social network called fishpals. Okay so I'm exaggerating. But not buy much.
The thing that makes web 2.o palatable is that regular people who like to do regular things -- goofballs like you and me -- are building companies around stuff they like to do. Now this happened the first time around SORT OF, but during the dot-com days, you remember, it was all about e-commerce. How do I sell you shit without you having to leave your chair. And on the B2B side, it was supply chain optimization really: how do we get shit to and from each other cheaper/faster/better using les internetz.
So, yeah, it's a bubble. Sure it's a bubble. But at least we get to play around with stuff. We have user generated users (friends of friends of friends trying other friends' products/services) and user generated companies (companies started by people formerly known as users) creating a service for every possible hobby/passion/want/need/wish.
Fascinating how it can be so interesting and so damn annoying at the same time.
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Loolooloooolooo Looolooloo
Senator Craig's not the only one with a fascination for bathroom shenanigans. Check out the Bathroom Blogfest for everything you need to know about the ultimate customer experience -- Toby's got a great RUN down too. Okay It's really hard for me not to do bathroom humor as it is. So that's where I'll END it.
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November 02, 2007
got my rx reading glasses today
Jenna (as you may remember, she's 10) and I got our first pairs of glasses on the same day. I believe that means she has her FATHER'S vision genes. ;-)I'll try to get her in front of the computer tomorrow. Blessedly, she is asleep. She looks cute as a bug in hers. Two pairs for $99. Oye, moneymoneymoney. Tres ick.
Alert for the uninsured: Doctor's Vision Works exam is cheaper than Walmart's. $39 at the vision works place. $55 at Walmart.
Helllo. They have a reading-glasses sale (custom) for $29. That's pretty good. AND I got my glasses in a-bout-an-hour.
It's weird -- I can really see now when I look at the computer. And all this time I thought it was Stripping News. I wonder why I never saw any T&A.
October 29, 2007
And that goes double for Jeremy
Marketing Roadmap asks, and Kat Herding speaks, in comments.
Kat Herding and Jeremy Outerbridge will long live on in our hearts, but when the photographer whose photos we purchased/licensed decided to threaten legal action over the matter (even though I believe the photos were technically used for purposes under which they were licensed), the fact is that we gave up. At the time we were, uh, slightly engaged in other crises of magnificent proportion. So we both tore down our identities, and some of the most creative alter-blogging in the blogosphere went see-ya-later-bye.
At least no animals were harmed in the making of the Kat Herding Media management team.
So that's the story. Now even my emails from those golden days are gone.
With so much frustration so frequently, why do we stay here?
Anyone?
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Kat Herding and Jeremy Outerbridge will long live on in our hearts, but when the photographer whose photos we purchased/licensed decided to threaten legal action over the matter (even though I believe the photos were technically used for purposes under which they were licensed), the fact is that we gave up. At the time we were, uh, slightly engaged in other crises of magnificent proportion. So we both tore down our identities, and some of the most creative alter-blogging in the blogosphere went see-ya-later-bye.
At least no animals were harmed in the making of the Kat Herding Media management team.
So that's the story. Now even my emails from those golden days are gone.
With so much frustration so frequently, why do we stay here?
Anyone?
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October 28, 2007
What ARCHIVE Button?
You know sometimes when someone says, "Didn't you ever do X?" where X is something you should have done but stupidly didn't know anything about? yeah. so. right.Here's what I didn't know about gmail:
You never know when you might need a message again, but with traditional webmail services, you delete it and it's gone forever. With Gmail, you can easily archive your messages instead, so they'll still be accessible when you need them. If you decide you no longer want a message in your Inbox, just hit the 'Archive' button and the message will still be available in 'All Mail' or through a search.I've used Gmail for 4 years, but not exculsively until I got my mac (correction, until my blog READERS got me my mac) a few months ago. I had gotten used to the folder structure in Outlook, and when I moved to Gmail over time, I really valued the search box at the top, because that was how I could find anything and everything I needed. I figured I didn't NEED to move my inbox mail around anymore. What with all these MBs of storage, let er ride!
'All Mail' is the holding place for all of the messages you've sent or received, but not deleted. When you delete a message, it's gone forever. With Gmail, you have enough storage space to last for years without deleting a single message. Just archive everything and all your messages will be searchable and easily accessible.
Problem is, I never noticed the Archive button. I never RTFM either. I didn't know about All Mail--I never even NOTICED it. Every once in a while I'd go clear out spam, and empty trash, but that was it. I figured Google was doing the archiving. OF COURSE I WANT MY ASP TO ARCHIVE MY DATA. They archive my blog for me--why not my mail?
Do they archive? I don't know yet. I posted on the forum Shelley suggested. We'll see.
Funny thing is, lots of the bloggers have popped up in GChat to ask if I've found my inbox mail yet. I tell them no, and then I say, "TIP: if you haven't archived, go do it. now." TO A MAN/WOMAN, they're like: ARchive? What the hell is that? How?
Like me, they jumped into gmail and never really bothered to think about DOING anything with their mail. Like me, they just saw the little archive and allmail features for the first time after my crisis.
e. chatted me up and said, where did you put your inbox mail? I mean you archived it right? I'm like, no i kept it in my inbox. she's like what do you mean--ALL of it? I said, well yeah, all of it. and she's like how...why...wha.. how many messages? I said, thousands. She said, MBs? I said, lots--like almost 30% full. She said: You never archived it? me: :-(
See, she keeps her inbox empty. She does the right thing and archives her mail like continuously. As we reviewed how we use gmail, it became apparent that we are polar opposite gmail users.
If i were you, I'd model my gmail habits after e., not me.
So my question is: How often do you archive your gmail?
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The Horror - My Incoming Gmail Mail Is Still Gone
I really was hoping -- nay praying -- that when I woke up today, my inbox would be as full as it was, and the losing of mail going back to 2004 would have been just a glitch in the system.Not so.
You are currently using 43 MB (0%) of your 4463 MB.
I was up to almost (30%) percent full yesterday.
What I do still have are chats going back to 05 and some sent mail dating back to 04. I haven't sorted it out yet to see if sent mail is all there. Honestly, I'm afraid to look too closely. But suffice it to say that the 1700 messages in my "All Mail" folder don't represent the thousands of emails I had before whatever happened happened.
Mail HAS shown up in my Sent Mail folder since yesterday. When the bomb went off, all folders were empty, including trash, sent, spam, and inbox. I don't know if everything is back in my sent mail. There are 900+ messages. Something tells me I've sent more than that. But I'm HAPPY to have what I have.
All Mail seems to be a combo of chats and sent mail.
Inbox - nothing. nothing other than the mail I've gotten between yesterday's loss and and right now.
And I was in the middle of a big project with very important emails going back and forth.
Devastated.
How can Google not have an archive function that lets us save mail to our hard drives?
I never even saw the "archive" button until yesterday. never thought about clicking 'select all' and archiving important mail.
I figured--it's Google. What could go wrong?
A lot.
SO, if anyone knows who I can call or email at Google about finding my incoming mail between 04 and yesterday, I'd sure appreciate it.
and, by the way, share your backup techniques with your friends if you have any.
shit.
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