February 02, 2003

with a little digging and the help of google...

I found part of the chatroom log that chronicled Brandon Vedas' death via overdose while online with webcam and chat....

here
here.

And, here:

[04:02] rippercam is up
[04:02] * grphish loves the cock!
[04:02] I got a grip of drugs
[04:02] show us ripper
[04:02] you want me to run my root off in ya boy
[04:02] ripper
[04:02] ripper is a gangster!!!
[04:02] what do you have
[04:02] do u guys grow
[04:02] magical mushrooms
[04:02] magical mushrooms are defined as psilocybe XXxXX
[04:02] ?
[04:02] klonoz!
[04:03] tune in
[04:03] watch
[04:03] give us url
[04:03] rippercam
[04:03] rippercam is functioning
[04:03] amaze
[04:03] * felix is now known as theKat
[04:03] http://www.klonopinz.com/webcam.html
[04:03] !rippercam
[04:03] forget rippercam
[04:03] grphish: I forgot rippercam
[04:03] ripper answer pm whore
[04:03] is sammi there?
[04:03] rippercam is http://www.klonopinz.com/webcam.html
[04:03] PUT A TOP ON
[04:03] *CLOSES HIS EYES*
[04:03] u see that chat
[04:03] oh dear
[04:03] butt slu t
[04:04] thats a lot of klonopin
[04:04] heh
[04:04] along with shrooms or pot
[04:04] looks like ripper is fine enough in the nude
[04:04] whats that ur holding?
[04:04] heh
[04:04] shrooms!
[04:04] shrooms are inevitable.
[04:04] yay ripper!
[04:04] shrooms in Rx bottle
[04:04] ripper cam
[04:04] lol
[04:04] s
[04:04] whos that?
[04:04] that is real
[04:04] bagga weed
[04:04] methadone 80mg
[04:04] thats u ripper
[04:04] ?
[04:04] or
[04:04] whats that red shit
[04:04] haha
[04:04] i knew it
[04:04] haa
[04:04] you lucky fux0r
[04:05] AHHAA
[04:05] brandon?
[04:05] brandon is a good dood though
[04:05] whats those bottles?
[04:05] TAKE ONE CAPSULE
[04:05] takea thousant!
[04:05] whats
[04:05] whats is he and she
[04:05] the fuckin bottles
[04:05] bottles is kind of coffin shaped too
[04:05] i DIDNT SEE
[04:06] ah
[04:06] is that bug ripper
[04:06] bud
[04:06] bud is a brand of beer as well as marijuana
[04:06] heh
[04:06] tonight is a ogod night fellas
[04:06] haha
[04:06] will u jerk it
[04:06] for me
[04:06] for me is is....i will explain
[04:06] so whaty do you have all together
[04:06] bud klono and methadone
[04:07] im just playin
[04:07] but whats in the bottles
[04:07] really
[04:07] really is there any place on the net that I can read where others have put brain power into devising ways to grow weed subversively?
[04:07] im not watching that shit anymore
[04:07] klono, methadone, restoril, inderal, weed, kb
[04:07] you need to shave your head
[04:07] kb?
[04:07] kind buds?
[04:07] yoda: methadone in bottles
[04:07] :p
[04:07] kind buds yes
[04:07] methadone
[04:07] methadone is easier on your nose than e
[04:07] u an ex heroin addict
[04:07] or hwaT?
[04:07] hwaT is the ring. . .?
[04:07] long story
[04:07] That usually means that the person doesn't want to talk about it.
[04:07] bottoms up fells
[04:07] check this shit
[04:07] hey ripper
[04:07] 8000mg equivalent of oxy-contin
[04:07] * gee_wiz has joined #shroomery
[04:07] Not a Care in Life
[04:08] * gee_wiz has left #shroomery
[04:08] haha
[04:08] i bet that tasted like shit
[04:08] brb drink
[04:08] a bottle of methadone is a dose of methadone?
[04:08] we see him knock his head on the back wall and stay there for the next 14 hours
[04:09] that little bottle is a dose?
[04:09] whao
[04:09] thats alot
[04:09] jesus
[04:09] Jesus healed the lame! With Cannabis Oil!!! http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/2633187.stm
[04:09] I just stumbled
[04:09] to the ktichen
[04:09] I'm all fucked up
[04:09] motherukc
[04:09] dude you just drank it
[04:09] attempted suicide #84
[04:09] did you smoke bud as well?
[04:09] yeah
[04:09] =P
[04:09] and
[04:09] ripper: how much methadone did you take?
[04:09] keep that respirator hady
[04:09] I'm gonna take some klonos
[04:09] watch
[04:09] hadny
[04:09] 80mg
[04:09] 80mg is alot of ritalin though
[04:09] handt
[04:09] pure
[04:09] pure is good yeah pure is good!
[04:10] hadndndyhdnahnaha ahdny handy
[04:10] how much is a regular dose?
[04:10] they start [eolpe who shoot at 20-30mg
[04:10] goodnight
[04:10] gang
[04:10] gang is believed to run five vans which all have curtains fitted behind the drivers seat and beds installed in the back.
[04:10] peace
[04:10] make baby cadavers
[04:10] out
[04:10] do you take this much nightly?
[04:10] much love
[04:10] <33333333
[04:10] byebyebyeybeybyebyeybe
[04:10] dont OD on us ripper
[04:10] firdt time with lwuid
[04:10] ufusls pillz
[04:10] so rhey are 5mg
[04:10] * yoda has quit IRC (Leaving: Leaving)
[04:10] did the methadone kick in aqlready
[04:11] or what.
[04:11] oh yeah
[04:11] I'm fcuk
[04:11] i wonder if we'll see ripper ever again
[04:11] hey ripper
[04:11] heh
[04:11] hey
[04:11] bonjour, ripper
[04:11] whatsup
[04:11] what are you on right now ripper
[04:11] yea what are you on
[04:11] aalot of drugs
[04:11] 80mg methadone
[04:11] 8mg klonopin
[04:11] 120mg resotril
[04:11] 1.5 grams KB
[04:11] 4 grams mersh
[04:11] mersh?
[04:11] mersh is east coast
[04:11] wtf
[04:12] 110 mg inderal
[04:12] hehe
[04:12] you're making drugs up!
[04:12] and
[04:12] lol
[04:12] whats mersh
[04:12] it has been said that mersh is east coast
[04:12] 2 vicodan
[04:12] dude
[04:12] you ever done this much before
[04:12] thats it
[04:12] eat more
[04:12] thats not much
[04:12] man. 2 vicodin would do me in
[04:12] don't overdose on us ripper :[
[04:12] I did this tonight
[04:12] u fools
[04:12] fools we will always be
[04:12] I eat that every morning
[04:12] did u not see my bag of drugs
[04:12] look
[04:12] * Pnutbot looks
[04:12] you pussy
[04:12] you pussy
[04:12] eat more
[04:12] haha Smoke2k stfu
[04:12] lol
[04:12] your fucking nuts ripper
[04:12] :)
[04:13] yeah
[04:13] thats what I thought bitch
[04:13] id take the methadone over all if that
[04:13] don't talk to me about doing enough drugs
[04:13] thats my pesonal stash
[04:13] tough love
[04:13] all the goods
[04:13] for a weekend of fun
[04:13] those benzos
[04:13] fuck yeah
[04:13] damn I am pretty sure that I would not be able more than the methadone and vicodan
[04:13] I solu eat 4 restoril
[04:13] one sec
[04:13] ripper
[04:13] ripper is a gangster!!!
[04:13] solu?
[04:13] You sure your judgement isn't impared to the least?
[04:13] you're not going to overdose on us are you?
[04:13] what the hell is this new dialect your making up
[04:14] great
[04:14] bottosms up
[04:14] lol
[04:14] cheers and righty hoe
[04:14] hell yea eat more
[04:14] lol
[04:14] eat more
[04:14] you pussy
[04:14] you should get sammi over there
[04:14] lol
[04:14] wait
[04:14] wait is that legal?
[04:14] I havent taken inderal
[04:14] mmmmMM
[04:14] to get your ass to the hospital in an hour
[04:14] damn if you die you fucking bitch I am going to feel so bad
[04:14] yah you have
[04:14] eat more
[04:14] haha Smoke2k
[04:14] :)
[04:14] dude
[04:14] anyone knows rippers address?
[04:15] damn man ripper is a dumbass
[04:15] someone call the paramedics on him
[04:15] when you are making a new dialect up ripper you need to say you have had enough
[04:15] there we go
[04:15] I should be set
[04:15] I am immune to some pills but you know what I do I just don't buy them anymore
[04:15] Smoke2k, wait till the klonos vicodins and all the other pills he took kick in
[04:15] I suggest he just doesn't eat anymore
[04:15] these are good pillz u know
[04:15] ripper :]
[04:15] damn ripper your such a fucking cunt
[04:15] :)
[04:15] I am having a wonderful evening
[04:15] you ever done this much before?
[04:16] why am I a cunt
[04:16] this is usual weekend behaviour
[04:16] I told u fucks
[04:16] u all said I was lying
[04:16] haha
[04:16] how many have you eaten before
[04:16] lol
[04:16] we did?
[04:16] my mom is in the next room doing crozzwordz
[04:16] haha
[04:16] well
[04:16] yea you should go give her some
[04:16] she won't notice anyway
[04:16] offer her some pillz
[04:16] the methdone will kick your ass
[04:16] and make you pretty quiet
[04:17] your mom won't know that your crawling to bed?
[04:17] watcht this bitch
[04:17] yeah. if you do some meth
[04:17] 2 methadone
[04:17] lol
[04:17] lo,l
[04:17] you crazy sumbitch
[04:17] LOL
[04:17] you got a guitar Rippah?
[04:17] damn I gotta get this fucking web cam
[04:17] if ripper doesn't die he's going to have a great time
[04:17] gimme addy again
[04:17] hell yea
[04:17] damn ripper you gotta play us some tunes bro
[04:17] whoa
[04:17] whoa is right
[04:17] I am high
[04:17] Your IP has been logged and the police are on their way, better slam that ben and jerry's and haul some ass hippy
[04:17] fucking wail on that bitch
[04:17] fuck
[04:18] Ripper
[04:18] Ripper is a gangster!!!
[04:18] what are you on?
[04:18] ?!!!!!11
[04:18] hey whats addy
[04:18] i bet ripper will just pass out and forget it all
[04:18] hes on alot
[04:18] alot of drugs
[04:18] What?
[04:18] 80mg methadone
[04:18] 8mg klonopin
[04:18] 120mg resotril
[04:18] 1.5 grams KB
[04:18] 4 grams mersh
[04:18] 160mg methadone
[04:18] lol
[04:18] holy Shit
[04:18] 8mg klonopin
[04:18] * Pnutbot worships Oea's shit.
[04:18] 120mg rrestoril
[04:18] lolol
[04:18] ripper
[04:18] ripper is a gangster!!!
[04:18] ur ded
[04:18] I just ate about 160mg inderal
[04:18] and
[04:18] we seen him eat alot
[04:18] I smoked 1.5 grams kb
[04:18] he said hes got a big tolerance
[04:18] and 5 grams normal pot
[04:18] and
[04:18] you better stay on web cam all night
[04:18] I drank some 151
[04:18] I wanna see if you survive or if you just black out
[04:19] * grphish eats nutmeg :(
[04:19] ripper
[04:19] ripper is a gangster!!!
[04:19] this is more fun than a drunk on cops missing teeth wearing a wife beater
[04:19] don't die motherfucker
[04:19] i'll kill you
[04:19] man
[04:19] yea thats what I said Oea
[04:19] ripper, if you puke? can i eat it? i'll get so high of that puke
[04:19] * phalaris changes topic to ' 80mg methadone 8mg klonopin 120mg resotril 1.5 grams KB 4 grams mersh I just ate about 160mg inderal'
[04:19] I told him he was a pussy a minute ago as a joke and then he ate more
[04:19] hah
[04:19] that's a lot of downers
[04:19] I suppose
[04:19] lol
[04:19] you'd better not go to sleep
[04:19] breathe
[04:20] it's all going down
[04:20] how many people are watching this non=sense
[04:20] stay here mother fucker
[04:20] everyone here
[04:20] :/
[04:20] whats web site
[04:20] web site is Christiania.org
[04:20] I
[04:20] phalaris doesn't make sense.. no telling what makes sense these days...
[04:20] i need it
[04:20] i need it
[04:20] now
[04:20] What's the cam site?
[04:20] yea
[04:20] http://www.klonopinz.com/webcam.html
[04:20] thx
[04:20] ripper .. you should try as best to pass out in front of the cam
[04:20] wtf is that
[04:20] that is real
[04:20] IS THAT YOUR BOWEL?
[04:20] hehe
[04:21] there
[04:21] there is a make black and white under effects
[04:21] i hope ripper doens't die or anyhting :<
[04:21] thats the perfect position
[04:21] look
[04:21] * Pnutbot looks
[04:21] if I'm laying there
[04:21] see if you can see me
[04:21] ripper
[04:21] ripper is a gangster!!!
[04:21] yah
[04:21] good
[04:21] code a dead man's trigger
[04:21] leave it like that
[04:21] if you don't respond in X time
[04:21] it warns us
[04:21] LOL
[04:21] haha
[04:21] AND, HE'S GONE!
[04:21] ehh
[04:21] lol
[04:21] [04:21] did you just flash us
[04:21] oh dear where'd you get the strength to get back up
[04:21] I got some more drugs here somewhere
[04:21] LIZZOLE
[04:21] gimme a sec
[04:21] lol
[04:21] no ripper
[04:21] no ripper is steady massaging my blue balls since I got turned down by the raging dyke
[04:22] LOL
[04:22] don't
[04:22] RIPPER
[04:22] RIPPER is a gangster!!!
[04:22] LMAO
[04:22] NO
[04:22] don't be a dick
[04:22] dude
[04:22] ripper
[04:22] ripper is a gangster!!!
[04:22] I haven't finished going through my bag
[04:22] no more
[04:22] jese fucking christ
[04:22] CUT IT OUT
[04:22] just smoke some weed
[04:22] lol
[04:22] DSMLSDJKSD
[04:22] lol
[04:22] DUDE
[04:22] lol
[04:22] lol
[04:22] SDFJDS
[04:22] fucking eat it
[04:22] fucking eat it
[04:22] STOP IT
[04:22] fucking eat it
[04:22] lol
[04:22]  STOP IT
[04:22]  STOP IT
[04:22]  STOP IT
[04:22]  STOP IT
[04:22] :(
[04:22] ripper knows what hes doing
[04:22] dfkgjdfg
[04:22]  STOP IT i dont care, !
[04:22]  STOP IT i dont care, stop it :(
[04:22] LOL
[04:22] lol
[04:22] LOL
[04:22] LOL
[04:22] Ripper
[04:22] Ripper is a gangster!!!
[04:22] he knows he's attempting suicide for the umpteenth time
[04:22] lol
[04:22] nth
[04:23] loEL
[04:23] degree
[04:23] degree is ALT-248 °
[04:23] 1!!! ripper THIS IS YOUR MAUDER SPEAKING, ENOUGH!
[04:23] stop it :(()~
[04:23] stick the pillz up yer noz
[04:23] alright
[04:23] there we go
[04:23] ripper
[04:23] ripper is a gangster!!!
[04:23] 8mg klonopin the mix
[04:23] do you want to die or what?
[04:23] !!!!
[04:23] nah
[04:23] its safe
[04:23] I know what I'm doing
[04:23] When you stop breathing!
[04:23] ok look dude
[04:23] heres the plan
[04:23] Respitory depressssion
[04:23] cram the pill up your ass
[04:23] listen
[04:23] your already numb
[04:23] loel
[04:24] the domain registration
[04:24] what did you just do ripper
[04:24] on my website
[04:24] on my website are a bunch links to erowid, shroomery, all that in my link ssection
[04:24] look if we pay pal you enough money will you do it
[04:24] if you call the police
[04:24] and tell them
[04:24] * phalaris changes topic to ' 80mg methadone 8mg klonopin 120mg resotril 1.5 grams KB 4 grams mersh I just ate about 160mg inderal 8mg klonopin the mix'
[04:24] to lookf or a AE92GTS corlla GTS from 90
[04:24] around that street block
[04:24] wtf?
[04:24] Willy The Fudgee-o
[04:24] they'll find it
[04:24] dude
[04:24] look dude fucking cram it up your ass
[04:24] thats crazy ya know
[04:24] don't eat it
[04:24] your already numb
[04:24] riipper
[04:24] do it
[04:24] cram it
[04:24] wha
[04:24] cram it up your ass
[04:24] don't eat it
[04:24] RIPPER
[04:24] RIPPER is a gangster!!!
[04:24] :((((
[04:24] I got laid earlier
[04:24] thats too stupid
[04:24] don't
[04:24] CALL 911
[04:24] :D
[04:24] the chick watned it on tape
[04:24] man don't die
[04:25] CALL 911
[04:25] she had a tight pussy
[04:25] :D
[04:25] cram it up your ass
[04:25] no rubs
[04:25] I fucked her hard
[04:25] Haven't you heard of "Rationing"
[04:25] she was swollen
[04:25] hey man
[04:25] fucking show us the porn
[04:25] phalaris make him not die :[
[04:25] no more drugs for now
[04:25] u guys getting good frma rate
[04:25] not unless your cramming it up your ass
[04:25] hey
[04:25] who's calling the cops when he passes out?
[04:25] call his mom
[04:26] Who is?
[04:26] I will call his mom
[04:26] okay
[04:26] cool
[04:26] I got a cell right ere
[04:26] here
[04:26] here is a view of my bed
[04:26] my mom is stupid thought
[04:26] actually
[04:26] gimme number you crazy fucks
[04:26] hrees my cell
[04:26] take some stims!
[04:26] in fase anything goe
[04:26] wrong
[04:26] my cell
[04:26] my cell is working again now, you have the #?
[04:26] yea go eat some crank
[04:26] heh
[04:26] (602)434-1016
[04:26] Smoke2k, you'er going to bed in a while
[04:26] k
[04:26] k is, like, better
[04:26] thats my cell
[04:26] call if I look dead
[04:26] no
[04:26] ok ay
[04:26] lol
[04:26] someone call him now and talk to his ass
[04:27] alright
[04:27] * hast has joined #shroomery
[04:27] talking could be good
[04:27] ripper
[04:27] ripper is a gangster!!!
[04:27] lets get hast to call him
[04:27] I'm getting kinda board
[04:27] if you DIE
[04:27] ayo
[04:27] I WILL MURDER YOU
[04:27] I get free LD
[04:27] i am
[04:27] hast
[04:27] hast is having cosmic revelations.
[04:27] :)
[04:27] who wwants to talk
[04:27] call ripper
[04:27] he is dying
[04:27] what's wrong with him
[04:27] he took mega pills
[04:27] look at topic
[04:27] topic
[04:27] topic is good
[04:27] ^^
[04:27] 1,8(4,8o1,8^_^4,8o1,8)
[04:27] plus the 130mg inderol
[04:27] and the 8mg klonopin
[04:28] well
[04:28] the way i see it
[04:28] the way i see it is that you put a person (your child) into a situation (life) without their consent. it is therefore you who are obligated to the child, rather than the other way around
[04:28] dude
[04:28] he's got two options
[04:28] look at him
[04:28] get his stomach pumped
[04:28] 130 + 160 ?
[04:28] 290
[04:28] what is he doing
[04:28] or die
[04:28] WHAT IS HE DOING!
[04:28] talking isn't giong to do shit
[04:28] LOL
[04:28] rippercam
[04:28] http://www.klonopinz.com/webcam.html
[04:28] he's dead
[04:28] happy trails
[04:28] he's on the phone with someone
[04:28] RIPPER
[04:28] RIPPER is a gangster!!!
[04:28] come on man
[04:28] call the cops
[04:28] dude
[04:28] am talking to smoke
[04:28] don't make me tape this video stream and ebay it later
[04:28] everyting is ok
[04:29] smoke will report
[04:29] that would own
[04:29] how slurred is his speach?
[04:29] ripper
[04:29] ripper is a gangster!!!
[04:29] just call 911
[04:29] hes so slurred
[04:29] and tell them you took a whole lot of pills
[04:29] haha
[04:29] they'll fix you up
[04:29] >:(
[04:29] RIPPER
[04:29] RIPPER is a gangster!!!
[04:29] IF YOU DIE
[04:29] or
[04:29] I SWEAR TO GOD!
[04:29] go crack some raw eggs
[04:30] and slurp them down
[04:30] until you puke
[04:30] haha
[04:30] yeah dude
[04:30] induce vomiting
[04:30] * phalaris changes topic to ' 80mg methadone 8mg klonopin 120mg resotril 1.5 grams KB 4 grams mersh I just ate about 160mg inderal I drank some 151 8mg klonopin the mix'
[04:30] that's a really good idea
[04:30] whats 151?
[04:30] 151 is always a blast
[04:30] Ripper
[04:30] Ripper is a gangster!!!
[04:30] Go puke dude
[04:30] oh
[04:30] whats 151?
[04:30] rumour has it 151 is always a blast
[04:30] whats 151?
[04:30] 151 is always a blast
[04:30] please!
[04:30] bacardi 151
[04:30] 151 proof liquor
[04:30] OMG
[04:30] LOOK AT THE CAM
[04:30] LOL
[04:30] !
[04:30] proof
[04:30] proof is that we outlive our teeth
[04:31] ahaha
[04:31] dude
[04:31] thats a lo of proof!
[04:31] heh
[04:31] 151 / 2
[04:31] 75.5
[04:31] where's he at
[04:31] he is waiting for his friend who obviously has a problem
[04:31] hes alive
[04:31] i mean geographically
[04:31] he's at a one man brothel
[04:31] and tellin me about cam
[04:31] Smoke2k, the pills take a while to kick in dude
[04:31] Dude
[04:31] Once wave 2 kicks in
[04:31] hm
[04:31] where
[04:31] he's gone
[04:31] is
[04:31] he
[04:31] he is a homo
[04:31] at
[04:31] smoke
[04:31] rumour has it smoke is fine
[04:32] his domain
[04:32] whois is
[04:32] k
[04:32] k is better
[04:32] what is it
[04:32] kolonopinz.com
[04:32] or something
[04:32] better than nothing
[04:32] rippercam
[04:32] http://www.klonopinz.com/webcam.html
[04:32] :()
[04:32] Administrative Contact:
[04:32] Get Ripped Productions
[04:32] B Ripper
[04:32] 2000 W. Village Dr.
[04:32] Phoenix, AZ 85023
[04:32] US
[04:32] US is a nasty customer too.
[04:32] (602)555-1234
[04:32] 6604@whois.gkg.net
[04:32] shi
[04:32] oh
[04:32] that numbenr is fake
[04:32] you're in pheonix
[04:32] so here's what you do
[04:32] call the pheonix police
[04:32] tell them what's going on
[04:32] and that's that
[04:33] call the hospital
[04:33] How do they know where to find him?
[04:33] i'm damn sure not getting involved with the authorities
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[04:33] noone is hast :(
[04:33] Stay anonymous
[04:33] heh
[04:33] opdivert
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[04:33] S[04:33] Smoke2k
[04:33] are you on the phoen with him?
[04:33] hey]
[04:33] yea\
[04:33] Is he still okay/
[04:33] uhuh
[04:33] hmm
[04:33] i duno
[04:34] after reading that again
[04:34] thats a lot of pills
[04:34] but
[04:34] Heh
[04:34] hes tellin about motel
[04:34] i don't think it's lethal
[04:34] besides
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[04:34] ripper is a kolono crackhead
[04:34] respitory depression
[04:34] he has a tolerance
[04:34] yeah
[04:34] hey
[04:34] that's true
[04:34] glad to see there are people in this room
[04:34] i think he'll be fine.
[04:34] well
[04:34] justtalk to him
[04:34] going to sleep is bad
[04:34] hast, lots of methadone, and alhcohol and .. klonopinz
[04:34] ya
[04:34] its porbably going to be hard not to fall asleep
[04:35] heh
[04:35] yes
[04:35] has anyone here have tried Salvia Divinorum?
[04:35] lol
[04:35] what would the shroomery backbone be without ripper
[04:35] Someone has to stay on the phone with him
[04:35] I have
[04:35] did you have a nice experience?
[04:35] yeah
[04:35] it's almost as good as nicotine extract
[04:35] hmm... can't say it was incredibly possitive
[04:35] you should try it
[04:35] most of us have tryed salvia
[04:35] had a lot of tinlging that distracted me
[04:35] um
[04:35] you know how to smoke it right?
[04:36] you're not gonna try smoke it in a joint or something
[04:36] hey
[04:36] what's up, hast
[04:36] i don't want to sound like the insensitive ass here
[04:36] but what exactly is ativan
[04:36] hes here
[04:36] ativan?
[04:36] somebody said ativan was not a benzo
[04:36] is a micro torch necessary absolutely?
[04:36] yes
[04:36] well yah heh
[04:36] he is eating
[04:36] good
[04:37] hmm... i laughed a little on it
[04:37] food will
[04:37] g
[04:37] Grams
[04:37] and cried a little on it...
[04:37] did you poo your pants ?
[04:37] !erowid ativan
[04:37] http://www.erowid.org/cgi-bin/search/htsearch.cgi?config=&words=12ativan
[04:37] hast , try http://www.erowid.org/cgi-bin/search/htsearch.cgi?words=ativan
[04:37] do any of you know any drugs/meds for Intrusive thoughts, or OCD?
[04:37] calming thoughts
[04:37] meditation
[04:37] meditation is, like, strange
[04:37] and good social awareness
[04:38] it's a true behavioral fluke that needs some attention
[04:38] i don't think these pills are ativans
[04:38] not passifiction
[04:38] is there a place where you can look up pills by the inscriptions on them?
[04:38] rxlist
[04:38] rxlist is my special friend
[04:39] i think
[04:39] you can search by pill number
[04:39] i tried there already
[04:39] oh
[04:39] oh
[04:39] really?
[04:39] really is there any place on the net that I can read where others have put brain power into devising ways to grow weed subversively?
[04:39] i just used the generic search
[04:39] i think
[04:39] how much bread should he eat?
[04:39] ripper needs a PS2 now
[04:40] yah heh
[04:40] and a puking session
[04:40] he'd probably end up eating his puke though
[04:40] id eat his puke
[04:40] its gonna have amny shit in there
[04:40] you'd die on his puke
[04:41] i can probably make like a 2 day stash from his puke
[04:41] yah hah
[04:41] id gelcap it
[04:41] hehe
[04:41] RipperPukeZ
[04:41] 20mg
[04:41] 20mg is enough for me
[04:41] eat a whole loaf
[04:41] haha
[04:41] well
[04:41] is it smart
[04:41] get him some ipeacac
[04:41] hes straight fucked
[04:41] are you still talking to him?
[04:41] he sounds like he is 12
[04:42] heh
[04:42] should he
[04:42] haha thats the pot :D
[04:42] he should have just sticked to the methadone thing
[04:43] that doesn't sound enough for someone who cooks his own KlonoKrak
[04:43] he is not discontinuing eating bread to smoke pot until he has a answer
[04:43] no
[04:43] ug?
[04:43] ug is micrograms. the u is supposed to be the greek letter mu, lower case.
[04:43] what he needs to do
[04:43] is call a fucking doctor
[04:43] some shit
[04:43] some shit is just poison
[04:43] if partially digested
[04:43] lol
[04:43] can fuck you up worse if you puke
[04:43] damn
[04:43] haven't you ever seen the rx bottles
[04:43] that say
[04:43] DO NOT INDUCE VOMMITING
[04:43] yh
[04:43] well I am talking
[04:43] cause
[04:44] I will tell him whatever
[04:44] i mean dont get me wrong
[04:44] hast is right actually
[04:44] what do yall suggest
[04:44] if its between that and death
[04:44] and hes not gona call the authorities
[04:44] wharf it up
[04:44] better than taking a chance
[04:44] I think that has to do with eating an acid or poison
[04:44] hey fuys
[04:44] look
[04:44] better yet
[04:44] * Pnutbot looks
[04:44] do this
[04:44] call poison control
[04:44] you shoudl nutralize it with milk
[04:44] they'll tell you what to do
[04:44] yah
[04:44] and they wont sent cops
[04:44] call poison control, they wont send authoritis and shit
[04:44] they'll just help you
[04:44] any of you could call poison control
[04:44] someone fnd the number
[04:44] i cant because i'm twacked out of my mind
[04:45] lol
[04:45] RIPPER: WHAT IS THAT?
[04:45] lol
[04:45] lol
[04:45] lol
[04:45] lol
[04:45] alrgiht
[04:45] lol
[04:45] '24mg klonopin
[04:45] ok
[04:45] tonight is a good night
[04:45] lol
[04:45] Someone
[04:45] Someone is gonan break soe shit
[04:45] Give me a list
[04:45] of all he's done
[04:45] in a PM
[04:45] and i'll call poison control
[04:45] the first 8mg hasn't kick in yet
[04:45] damn
[04:45] and you took another 8mg
[04:45] * phalaris changes topic to ' 80mg methadone 8mg klonopin 120mg resotril 1.5 grams KB 4 grams mersh I just ate about 160mg inderal I drank some 151 8mg klonopin the mix '24mg klonopin'
[04:45] he is slurred and very coherent
[04:45] well ripper
[04:45] ripper is a gangster!!!
[04:46] just because 8mg is okay alone mixing it makes it mre potent
[04:46] and has more risks
[04:46] dude
[04:46] lol
[04:46] yeah ripper
[04:46] they'll think it's a prank
[04:46] step 1 might be to STOP EATING the shit
[04:46] that would be neat to see him mixing up psychedelics
[04:46] yeah, and from what i understand everyone thought pnut's suicide threat was a joke too
[04:46] i was JUST thiking about that phalaris
[04:46] He says you can suck his dick Oea
[04:47] haha
[04:47] ??
[04:47] he is going to drink another bottle of methadone I think
[04:47] lol
[04:47] LOL
[04:47] wtf?
[04:47] Willy The Fudgee-o
[04:47] JSD
[04:47] NO
[04:47] DUDE
[04:47] look
[04:47] * Pnutbot looks
[04:47] NO
[04:47] ripper is fakking hardcore
[04:47] llook
[04:47] he has to
[04:47] 400mcg LSD 2 grams mesc 100mg 5Meo DMT 8 grams shrooms
[04:47] haha hast is meth^m
[04:47] other people cannot handle
[04:47] yeah
[04:47] i'd call up poison control
[04:47] jesus
[04:47] Jesus healed the lame! With Cannabis Oil!!! http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/2633187.stm
[04:47] i ahve before
[04:47] whoa
[04:47] whoa is right
[04:48] thatsa lot
[04:48] but
[04:48] 320mg methadone
[04:48] jesus
[04:48] Jesus healed the lame! With Cannabis Oil!!! http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/2633187.stm
[04:48] BUNCHA POOSIES
[04:48] ripper: did you drink mre methadone?
[04:48] ripper is either hardcore or ungodly or crazy or one hell of a poser
[04:48] man .. alcohol gives me enough of a buzz
[04:48] dude 80mg is more than enough
[04:48] me too phalaris
[04:48] he R not posOr
[04:48] if he is telling the truth
[04:48] he is dead
[04:48] heh
[04:48] the opiates should do you in
[04:48] when you do alot of methadone your supposed to keep it hot right
[04:48] yeah
[04:48] I took
[04:48] thats what he is asking
[04:48] 4 80mg bottles
[04:49] fgh
[04:49] h
[04:49] h is too addictive.. so always stayed clear of it
[04:49] dfh;'dfkhrf
[04:49] putting benzos into it doesn't seem to change anything
[04:49] he's gone
[04:49] pls all the other stuff
[04:49] ripper
[04:49] ripper is a gangster!!!
[04:49] i really love you man
[04:49] ripper
[04:49] ripper is a gangster!!!
[04:49] i love you
[04:49] its sad to see you die like this
[04:49] :(
[04:49] byeb ye
[04:49] NOW
[04:49] I told u I was hardcore
[04:49] GO CALL RTHE UCKING
[04:49] POISON CONTROL CENTER
[04:49] ripper: we knew that already
[04:49] fuck u
[04:49] pusys
[04:49] u are so fucking stupid
[04:50] we're not the ones about to fucking die
[04:50] heh
[04:50] we are?
[04:50] The coolest mutha funkaz on the planet
[04:50] * Dell500 has joined #shroomery
[04:50] aaha pnut
[04:50] all this movement
[04:50] howdy
[04:50] P
[04:50] P is for poop!
[04:50] O
[04:50] O
[04:50] S
[04:50] rippercam
[04:50] http://www.klonopinz.com/webcam.html
[04:50] you'd think the body would purge
[04:50] I
[04:50] E
[04:50] E is better than alcohol
[04:50] S
[04:50] purge?
[04:50] purge is not needed
[04:50] puke
[04:50] puke is good.
[04:51] oh
[04:51] forget puke
[04:51] grphish: I forgot puke
[04:51] all those downers?
[04:51] damn
[04:51] i don't think he has the strength to puke
[04:51] heh
[04:51] he swears he is not goin to pass out
[04:51] WELL, HE SURE WON'T BE COUGHING ANY TIME SOON!
[04:51] he thinks you are a pussy for thinking he has no strength now
[04:51] Smoke2k, wait till the drugs really kick in
[04:51] i just got a bag o' shroomz, now i was just wondering what's the nonwasteful best way to eat them
[04:51] or whatever
[04:51] with your mouth?
[04:51] strength in taking an overdose
[04:52] poison control is 1-800-222-1222
[04:52] isn't it physically impossible to not pass out
[04:52] poison control
[04:52] poison control is on the fucking line!@
[04:52] poison control
[04:52] poison control is on the fucking line!@
[04:52] poison control
[04:52] poison control is on the fucking line!@
[04:52] :(
[04:52] heh
[04:52] MOUTH
[04:52] rumour has it MOUTH is great too
[04:52] forget poison control
[04:52] grphish: I forgot poison control
[04:52] poison control is 1-800-222-1222
[04:52] poison control
[04:52] 1-800-222-1222
[04:52] i'll tell you what he needs
[04:52] a nice harsh stimulant
[04:53] come on over ripper
[04:53] yeah
[04:53] I wonder if ripper is numb now
[04:53] i'll line you up a nice fat line
[04:53] you definately won't be passing out
[04:53] phalaris, 360mg of methadone will do that to you .
[04:53] he cann't figure out how to dial my home phone number
[04:53] he is tore
[04:53] wait I think he should have been from the first drug he took
[04:53] lol
[04:53] Smoke2k
[04:53] you not on the phone with him
[04:53] anymore?
[04:53] rumour has it anymore is a nice place
[04:53] i know what they'll tell you
[04:53] man... the need to get higher....
[04:53] they'll tell you to call the police
[04:53] or the hospital
[04:53] the hospital is the world of medicine
[04:53] someone needs to call him
[04:53] rippercam
[04:53] http://www.klonopinz.com/webcam.html
[04:53] rippercam
[04:53] http://www.klonopinz.com/webcam.html
[04:53] rippercam
[04:53] http://www.klonopinz.com/webcam.html
[04:54] he's gone
[04:54] hes fuckin not responding
[04:54] iht
[04:54] walls keep shiftionmg
[04:54] @!
[04:54] @ is a character.
[04:54] he's passed out
[04:54] look at the cam
[04:54] look
[04:54] * Pnutbot looks
[04:54] rippercam
[04:54] http://www.klonopinz.com/webcam.html
[04:54] rippercam
[04:54] http://www.klonopinz.com/webcam.html
[04:54] nice leopard skin shits
[04:54] comeone call
[04:54] someone call someone
[04:54] shit
[04:54] shit is going to hit the fan soon
[04:54] sheets
[04:54] sheets are like 350
[04:54] looks like his mouth is moving
[04:55] i am talking to him
[04:55] he moved
[04:55] he moved
[04:55] lol
[04:55] how long ago was all this btw
[04:55] Ripper: get up and move around!
[04:55] around 20 minutes?
[04:55] ohboy
[04:55] around 20 minutes?
[04:55] heh
[04:55] ./notice him
[04:55] dude
[04:55] the klonopins haven't even
[04:55] it makes sound
[04:55] starter
[04:55] nothing is digested yet
[04:55] yet
[04:55] started
[04:55] go toss your cookies
[04:55] klonopiuns last ALL DAY
[04:55] unless of course you want to die
[04:55] hast, he was already fucked up from before.
[04:55] oh
[04:55] i'm talking to him
[04:56] and he's laying on the bed
[04:56] effectively pissing into the wind
[04:56] smoke
[04:56] smoke is fine
[04:56] he better go puke
[04:56] i am trying to talk him into dancing for us
[04:56] i say you call the cops
[04:56] fuck
[04:56] give them his number
[04:56] lO
[04:56] Ll
[04:56] and send them over
[04:56] he's using a cel phone
[04:56] oh
[04:56] they can't trace it
[04:56] he fuckin won't respond
[04:56] what the fuck
[04:56] heuy
[04:56] he told us hw to find him
[04:56] CALL
[04:56] one second
[04:56] hy
[04:56] http://www.shroomery.org/forums/files/102702-5/3596-kumi55.gif
[04:56] SOMEONE
[04:56] SOMEONE is gonan break soe shit
[04:56] its up there
[04:56] He said
[04:56] DOMAIN REGISTRY
[04:56] WHOIS
[04:57] prepare to evacuate soul
[04:57] rippercam
[04:57] http://www.klonopinz.com/webcam.html
[04:57] KLONOPINZ.COM
[04:57] i guess KLONOPINZ.COM is gonna rock
[04:57] WHOIS IS
[04:57] lolol
[04:57] they alerady did
[04:57] oh
[04:57] nobody ever lists real info there
[04:57] smoke2k
[04:57] try to get us
[04:57] !domain klonopinz.com
[04:57] his real address
[04:57]  klonopinz.com  Registrant: Get Ripped Productions B Ripper 2000 W. Village Dr. Phoenix, AZ 85023 US (602)555-1234 6604@whois.gkg.net
[04:57]  klonopinz.com  Administrative Contact: Get Ripped Productions B Ripper 2000 W. Village Dr. Phoenix, AZ 85023 US (602)555-1234 6604@whois.gkg.net
[04:57]  klonopinz.com 
[04:57] klonopinz.com is gonna rock
[04:57] what's a good recipe??
[04:57] smoke2k
[04:57] try to get us
[04:57] smoke2k
[04:57] his real address
[04:57] you know
[04:57] who needs to be involved here
[04:57] is a server admin
[04:57] who can get his ip
[04:57] why
[04:58] the ip won''t help
[04:58] yes it will
[04:58] how?
[04:58] they can totally traceroute an ip
[04:58] yes
[04:58] i guess it'd probably take a while though
[04:58] but that only fives you to his isp
[04:58] nobody will be around
[04:58] if it was only 20 minutes ago
[04:58] unless it's a big isp
[04:58] the shit isnt kicking in yet
[04:58] did he smoke the kolono
[04:58] what is kolonocrack?
[04:58] freebase klonopin?
[04:58] i guess
[04:58] guessing is not a good idea
[04:58] wtf
[04:58] Willy The Fudgee-o
[04:59] heh.. poor ripper
[04:59] freebasing benzos?
[04:59] he's got #shroomery in a scuffle
[04:59] yah :(
[04:59] im all sad
[04:59] * phalaris has quit IRC (Leaving: those who truely get high never come back...)
[04:59] hes talking on the phone
[04:59] oh look he isn't dead
[04:59] how bout that
[04:59] yay
[04:59] my last bit of advice is
[04:59] riiper
[04:59] if you don't want to call the hospital
[04:59] toss your cookies
[04:59] hows it hanging/
[05:00] toss your cookies?
[05:00] i really don't know anything about anything you took
[05:00] i'd strongly suggest calling the hospital
[05:00] but if you're not going to
[05:00] barf
[05:00] but
[05:00] as far as my knowledge goes
[05:00] that might not even be a lethal dose
[05:00] barfing might now be a good idea
[05:00] yah
[05:00] well
[05:00] the copmbination though
[05:00] ya
[05:00] eh
[05:00] itll suck
[05:00] dont get me wrong
[05:00] but
[05:00] 360mg methadone would do you in
[05:01] wtf
[05:01] Willy The Fudgee-o
[05:01] heh
[05:01] he didnt eat 360mg of methadone
[05:01] yes
[05:01] he did
[05:01] he is settin me a vpn up
[05:01] 4 80mg bottles
[05:01] oh
[05:01] heh
[05:01] He's gone
[05:01] hes fuckin crazy
[05:01] you better hope he's lying
[05:01] 3.4g methadone
[05:01] yeah
[05:01] im hoping he is
[05:01] is enough to kill kurt cobain
[05:02] 3.4g > 360mg
[05:02] heh
[05:02] er
[05:02] er is for pussy
[05:02] rofl
[05:02] whatever dude
[05:02] you mean
[05:02] im not sitting here flipping my fuckin wig
[05:02] 340mg
[05:02] LOL
[05:02] call the hospital
[05:02] thats that
[05:02] i'm out
[05:02] * hast has quit IRC (Leaving: good luck)
[05:02] hast is on crank
[05:02] he's gone i tell you
[05:02] yeah
[05:02] Hey
[05:02] If ripper dies
[05:02] i got tabs
[05:02] on hsi drugs
[05:03] hes makin vpn
[05:03] if there's any lef
[05:03] t
[05:03] for what?
[05:03] * spiritualnexus has left #shroomery (www.Darker.net - Dare Thee Expose Thy Darker Side?)
[05:03] a vpn to do.....?
[05:03] for my personal benefit
[05:03] Get his address
[05:03] hey chat with me grphish
[05:03] msg me
[05:03] pm
[05:03] Someone has a crush on you
[05:04] ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~shoa
[05:04] I'm fukcin
[05:04] ripper
[05:04] ripper is a gangster!!!
[05:04] are you alright?
[05:04] ??
[05:05] yea
[05:05] :)
[05:05] hes on phone
[05:06] well or not
[05:06] hes severely fucked up I guess but coherent enough to do computer tasks
[05:06] ?
[05:06] he ceases to amaze me
[05:06] he can't talk?
[05:07] I don't know he just mumbled into phone something like fuck that and hung up
[05:07] but he was working on vpn
[05:07] I guess lol
[05:07] he hung up??
[05:07] hes prolly goin to black out again or something
[05:07] uhh
[05:07] if he blacks out
[05:07] he is gone
[05:07] u kno dis?
[05:07] he will cease to breath autonomically
[05:08] what does he list his last name as?
[05:08] uh
[05:08] is ripper dead?
[05:08] yeah
[05:08] just about
[05:09] CALL
[05:09] THE
[05:09] a piece of shit
[05:09] almost
[05:09] FUCKING
[05:09] :((((
[05:09] COPS
[05:09] COPS are blind followers
[05:09] NO
[05:09] poison control
[05:09] 1-800-222-1222
[05:09] poison control
[05:09] 1-800-222-1222
[05:09] poison control
[05:09] 1-800-222-1222
[05:09] poison control
[05:09] 1-800-222-1222
[05:09] NOW
[05:09] no
[05:09] wait
[05:09] wait is that legal?
[05:09] what did yall put his last name as
[05:09] I will fucking verify it
[05:10] I got brandon something with a v for his last name
[05:10] maybe its true
[05:10] You guys
[05:10] You guys are right
[05:10] fuck
[05:10] what about his phone
[05:10] was it a cell
[05:10] yah
[05:10] He is moving :D
[05:10] The s.c. LD50 in rats is 44 mg for methadone
[05:10] he has a webcam?
[05:10] can i see?
[05:10] rippercam
[05:10] http://www.klonopinz.com/webcam.html
[05:10] rippercam
[05:10] http://www.klonopinz.com/webcam.html
[05:11] call him
[05:11] call him
[05:11] fuck that
[05:11] I am tired and about to get off
[05:11] it's the same image every time
[05:12] he left
[05:12] jap
[05:12] vegan
[05:12] he took 360mg of methadone
[05:12] (602)434-1016
[05:12] (602)434-1016v
[05:12] there he is
[05:12] ripper
[05:12] ripper is a gangster!!!
[05:12] whats up
[05:12] Brandon Vitas
[05:12] I think
[05:13] ???
[05:13] yea
[05:13] whitepages
[05:13] well if he really is fucked then you need to call his mom
[05:13] no poison control
[05:13] is he stuck
[05:13] and if he is bullshitting
[05:13] then it will teach him a lesson and embarrass the fuck out of him
[05:13] :)
[05:13] just wait
[05:13] someone call him
[05:13] I have been trying
[05:13] leave him alone
[05:13] his phone is off
[05:14] hes fine
[05:14] I think it died
[05:14] get on yahoo his name is klonopinz
[05:14] see if he is cool
[05:14] !domain klonopinz.com
[05:14]  klonopinz.com 
[05:14] i heard klonopinz.com was gonna rock
[05:14] !whois klonopinz.com
[05:14] !help
[05:15] domain klonopinz.com
[05:15] !Molokobot
[05:15] Oea - Try these: !google !images !groups !alt.drugs !csp !mapquest !topozone
[05:15] These: !rxlist !imprint !pills !pillcity !pillchem !tabers !websters !thesaurus !news
[05:15] Or These: !erowid !domain !ebay !ebay.nl !imdb !lasturl !forex !fxchart !ascii !weird !slang !spores
[05:15] !domain klonopinz.com
[05:15]  klonopinz.com  Registrant: Get Ripped Productions B Ripper 2000 W. Village Dr. Phoenix, AZ 85023 US (602)555-1234 6604@whois.gkg.net
[05:15]  klonopinz.com  Administrative Contact: Get Ripped Productions B Ripper 2000 W. Village Dr. Phoenix, AZ 85023 US (602)555-1234 6604@whois.gkg.net
[05:15]  klonopinz.com 
[05:15] klonopinz.com is gonna rock
[05:15] Hmm
[05:15] Why is he just sitting there
[05:15] holding his head
[05:15] why not
[05:15] ??
[05:15] dude
[05:16] what r hsi lastr name
[05:16] i think he stopped the camera
[05:16] who the fuck has a 1234 number
[05:16] no one
[05:16] no one is worthy
[05:16] thats bullshit
[05:16] well I guess he might be alive he might not
[05:16] did you check yahoo?
[05:16] he's gone
[05:17] i sent him a message
[05:17] Klonopinz?
[05:17] Klonopinz is such a cool host
[05:17] yea
[05:17] well man I am fucking tired
[05:17] he's not responding
[05:17] its been fun watching this stunt
[05:18] I suggest you call poison control on his ass
[05:18] thats fucking crazy what he did
[05:18] Uhh
[05:18] Wt
[05:18] f
[05:18] fahrenheit !
[05:18] How?
[05:18] I have no info on him
[05:18] he swore he didn't pass out
[05:18] but he did
[05:18] well tell them his moms cell
[05:18] why would he stop the cam?
[05:18] they can some how trace it or something
[05:18] No
[05:18] they can't!
[05:18] !!!
[05:18] MAYBE THAT HAVE
[05:18] i need his las name
[05:18] THE FUCKING NUMBER REGISTERED
[05:19] (602)434-1016
[05:19] fine
[05:19] i will call the phone company
[05:19] what provider is it?
[05:19] no dude
[05:19] THE HOSPITAL
[05:19] the hospital is the world of medicine
[05:19] i will tell them i need her info
[05:19] stat
[05:19] stat is NURse GEt Me THat haMMer!
[05:19] WTF
[05:19] Willy The Fudgee-o
[05:19] they wont iver it to u
[05:19] poison control
[05:19] 1-800-222-1222
[05:19] Ripper you fuck, if you are joking
[05:19] fuck you
[05:19] i cam calling poison control
[05:19] good
[05:20] that dumb fuck is going to die
[05:20] he just passed out awhile ago
[05:20] he prolly just did it again
[05:20] I hope he gets mad cause this is a stunt worthy of us helping him if it isn't
[05:20] 360 mg of methadone
[05:20] will kill him right there
[05:20] either way he is a idiot in my opinion
[05:21] dont
[05:21] do
[05:21] do is such a futuuuristic word
[05:21] it
[05:21] Oea what is poison control saying
[05:21] what if he dies
[05:21] ong
[05:21] they said
[05:21] call 911 right now
[05:21] and he is almost assured dead
[05:21] if we dont'
[05:21] heh
[05:21] wtf
[05:21] Willy The Fudgee-o
[05:21] lol
[05:21] wtf
[05:21] Willy The Fudgee-o
[05:21] Where does he live?
[05:21] wjhat city?
[05:21] damn this is insane
[05:21] WHAT CITY?
[05:21] * Pnutbot wants to move to these towns! http://www.lifeisajoke.com/miscellaneous57_html.htm
[05:21] if this is a joke
[05:22] fucking phoenix i am pretty sure
[05:22] i swear
[05:22] okay
[05:22] might not want to do that
[05:22] but then again I don't know
[05:22] he might just be fucked up and not have stuff straight
[05:22] you could really fucking get him arrested
[05:22] damn this is hard call
[05:22] yall make it
[05:22] good night
[05:22] * Smoke2k has quit IRC (Leaving: )
[05:23] i am on line with 911
[05:23] is this the right choice?
[05:23] NO
[05:23] ??
[05:23] mayb
[05:23] probably is
[05:23] just tell him for help
[05:23] or somehting
[05:24] NO
[05:24] NO
[05:24] NO
[05:24] NO
[05:24] NO
[05:24] NO
[05:24] NO
[05:24] NO
[05:24] NO
[05:24] lolol
[05:24] okay
[05:24] i talked my way out of it
[05:24] didn't give them any info
[05:24] But the Kay
[05:24] fuck it...
[05:24] whatever
[05:24] 360mg is a LETHAL OVERDOSE
[05:24] just so you know
[05:24] they siad there's nothing they can do
[05:24] with just a cell phon enumber
[05:29] * pjs has joined #shroomery
[05:29] * ChanServ sets mode: +o pjs
[05:29] .....
[05:30] heh
[05:30] RIP ripper
[05:30] :[
[05:32] rippercam
[05:32] http://www.klonopinz.com/webcam.html
[05:37] * hast has joined #shroomery
[05:42] eh
[05:42] webcam
[05:42] i heard webcam was almost up
[05:42] hm
[05:42] konopincam
[05:42] what was that cam again
[05:42] hey ripper
[05:42] what's the url to your cam
[05:42] your cam is hosted by my machine
[05:42] lol
[05:43] it's off
[05:43] the cam is off
[05:44] he's gone
[05:44] heleft?
[05:44] no
[05:44] he stopped responding
[05:44] no responce on cell
[05:44] yahoo
[05:44] yahoo is slow
[05:44] irc
[05:44] It's the ultmate 1950s science fiction horror scenario: "IN THE FUTURE, PEOPLE WILL SIT AROUND ALL DAY WATCHING TELEVISION AND PRESSING BUTTONS"
[05:45] did anyone call poison control
[05:45] i went to eat and now im back
[05:46] * Dell500 has quit IRC (Leaving: )
[05:47] yeah
[05:47] they (and 911) said there's nothing they can do
[05:47] with just the cell #
[05:48] ripper cam
[05:48] :(
[05:48] rippercam
[05:48] http://www.klonopinz.com/webcam.html
[05:48] those who trully get high, never come back
[05:48] :(
[05:48] you will never know if he died unless he get back on here
[05:49] i know
[05:49] thats kinda freaky
[05:49] yeah
[05:49] oh well
[05:49] then all the logs get to be analyzed
[05:49] * daba has joined #shroomery
[05:49] and we all get to be investigated
[05:49] hello
[05:50] anyone awake?
[05:50] yes
[05:50] oh shit
[05:50] shit is going to hit the fan soon
[05:50] you're rifght

Holy shit. A study in the psychology and behavior of a virtual mob? A tragic death? A stupid reckless punk? Or just bunch of kids on drugs?

Chat to Death

A 21-year old Phoenix kid committed virtual and realworld suicide by ODing while chat room friends looked on via his webcam. Brandon Vedas is dead, and according to the story, at least some of the chat room participants were encouraging him to take more pills, and they watched as he died. Brandon Vedas was part of a trend that sees young people abusing prescription narcotics.

"...the technology that brought as many as a dozen chatters into the intimacy of Vedas' bedroom was unable to tell them where he was. Internet Relay Chat is anonymous, and no one in the drug users' chat group knew the last name of the young man who called himself Ripper."

One chatroom participant wrote, "That's not much," said a teenager from rural Oklahoma who calls himself Smoke2K. "Eat more. I wanna see if you survive or if you just black out."

Holy.

Vedas' mother was in the next room. She found him the next day at 1 p.m. He was dead. His computer was locked, and it took more than a week for anyone to find out the event had been witnessed, and partially at least encouraged, via webcam.



Coming of Age

...For Chaplin and Chutney

PURRsonals

SGWMF (single grey and white male feline) looking for 2SMCFF (two single multi-colored female felines) seeking mutual play and tree climbing. I like nightime walks, playing with toy mice, and long naps in the sunshine.







February 01, 2003

what did he know and when did he know it?

p.s. It's hard to keep up with all this outer space stuff when you're busy planning to take over this planet.

Well, he said it better than I did.

This from Joseph Duemer, who is more demure than I, and far more eloquent. I don't think he'd keep pieces of the shuttle if it landed on his land like I admitted I would. Instead, Joseph touches on the essentials about why the Columbia disaster doesn't really move my grief meter.

Too much sorrow in the small crevices of the earth. Too much nearby, under the heavens. I can't buy into the "national mourning" mandate of the media. When risk of death is inherent in a profession, and that risk is realized, then I say, sad, yes, and I move on.

I post this finally because I've been leaving comments over at Shelley's place, where I littered too much pessimism. Shelley did a wonderful tribute to the space program and its meaning for her (and many). Rather than leave any more of my negativity over there, I thought I'd have my final say here about today's news: They risked, they lost. God bless their children.

If you're looking for a personal touch on this global story, hop over to something Fishrush blogged more than a week ago about astronaut Kalpana Chawla. I like it because it's not piggybacking on the post-explosion news. It's something he was thinking and writing about while Chawla was alive.

That, more than anything I read today, gave me pause.

Halley's going to change the world...

one alpha male at a time.

LOOK OUT, UK! She's coming soon. Lock away your young men and your silverware!

If you lived in Texas...

If you lived in Nacogdoches, Texas, would you be picking up the pieces of the shuttle you've been told not to touch?

My answer later today.

and then there's this

Found this neat Science Blog this morning while I was looking for news on the Shuttle Columbia crash. It's a pretty cool blog and has interesting stories beyond the crisis of the minute.

I don't have much to say about the disaster, except I'm hoping none of the folks on the ground are harmed by the debris now raining down. I was looking at Drudge Report this morning at the minute the story broke. I chose not to blog it then because, now this is going to sound cruel, I didn't care much about it. Folks who get aboard a ball of fuel that can fly from Texas to Florida in 16 minutes, to my mind, realize that they can die from said adventure. Unless a regular Joe, or a Marek, gets hurt by a chunk of metal dropping from the sky, my heartstrings aren't tugged.

Sorry.

I found myself thinking instead that when the Challenger exploded, I was working at the University of Rochester, sitting at my desk in the editorial department of the Journal of Policy and Analysis, working in DOS and that horrible aberration of a word processing program better known as WordPerfect, cranking out words from overpaid egomaniacs for minimum wage.

Man, I'm selfish.

Turning off the news now.

The best thing about the Danger HipTop...

Is being able to pull the covers tight, snuggle in, and curl up with a
good blog.
--jeneane

January 31, 2003

now how was I supposed to leave this sitting in a comment box

It deserves a top-level chuckle from a guy who's tops himself. Tom Matrullo makes comedic Gumbo out of my McWhat? post.

feeling some positive energy around here this evening.

don't know what it is.
not expecting it to last.
but still, it's kinda nice.

(she says looking skyward for that other shoe.)

Shock and Awe

Sound like a bad movie title? Coming soon to a war theater near you: Shock and Awe.

This just in from David Weinberger, who go it from smh.com. au, CBS News, and CommonDreams. To be expected? Wshew.

On the topic of looming war, Shelley just turned down a good defense industry job and says why. Whether or not you agree with the war, to my mind, there is no disagreement about someone consistent in her principles. Another Wshew from me.

Putting a smile on my face now to go pick up my own precious little human life from school. Feeling a little more than down about the seemingly unsolvable problems of this world.


What do Joe Millionaire's Sarah Kozer and I have in common?

Answer: Eyeballs.

Check out my placement on Yahoo and Google for the Sarah Kozer story. Yesterday (two days ago now?) I pointed to The Smoking Gun's outing of Kozer, its story replete with soft-core bondage photos from Sarah's earlier dabbling in "entertainment."

I just saw the story run on Entertainment Tonight, said George, Bloggers and Net Dwellers scooped big media again, and we laughed. Later, I happened to look at my referrers list and saw a HOST of curious surfers finding my blog in their quest for sweet sarah's dungeon.

Sorry folks. Mostly she wears preppy turtlenecks and duct tape. Nice if you like preppy turtleneces and duct tape.

Otherwise, pretty lame. Good luck on your search though!

January 30, 2003

McDrive-Thru



I picked up Jenna after school and decided to stop by McDonalds to use some coupons I'd been saving up. One was a "free sandwhich" card--a card I got because the skilled technicians at the drive-thru window didn't deliver the breakfast goods in 30 seconds or less--and two coupons were from my Atlanta Entertainment book.

Generally, I'm not a coupon kind of gal. I should be. But I'm not. So I was pretty proud of myself for scoring a dinner for three for under $7.00 with these coupon things.

I pulled up to the "shout your order" menu board and told my story, that I'd like two Big Macs, but I had a buy-one-get-one-free coupon, so charge me for one BigMac.

Grasp of English on the other end of the two-way speaker was not great. But so far so good.

Then I asked for a Fish sandwhich for Jenna (her favorite) and said I had a card to get that free (the 30 seconds or less card).

"Oh, only one coupon. Only one per visit," returns the voice.

"I figured as much. I'll pull around and drive through again then."

It was an annoyance to pay, get the BigMacs, and pull around again, but rules are rules.

So I wait my turn, get back up to the "shout your order" board, and say, "It's me again. Can I get the free fish sandwhich? I have a card for that."

"Okay, drive up."

Trip two done. I'm a little annoyed but understand that I was asking a lot of them--that I'd never get them to understand why it didn't make sense that they couldn't hand me the fish sandwhich for the 30 seconds I wasted last time. In essense, I just lost my 30 seconds all over again. hmmm.

Oh well, at least I got the free fish.

Now, one more. The buy-one-get-one McFlurries that Jenna's been clamoring for in the back seat since we pulled into the drive through 15 minutes prior.

Around we go again to wait our turn.

Up to the order board finally. Now I'm feeling stupid, but oh so thrifty. Dinner and desert for next to nothing.

"Hello. I have a buy-one-get-one-free coupon for McFlurries. Can I have one M&M and one Oreo?"

"Drive up." The formalities are long gone.

I pull up to my now-familiar order/money taker and hold out my final coupon. "This is it. Thank you."

She takes it and disappears into the back, or the freezer, I couldn't tell which. I figured she had to visit some kind of freezer to get our McFlurries. I was wrong.

She walks back to the window and hands me my coupon back.

"You have to wait two hours to get these."

"Um... Two hours?"

"Uh huh. Two hours until you can use," she says pointing to the coupon.

My first thought was: Two hours before I can eat again--what, am I swimming home?

My second thought was, are you worried that my arteries need those extra 120 minutes to soften before I put more of your crap food down my cake hole?

My third thought was, WHAT?

So I say, "What?"

She shrugs her sweet South American shoulders.

Now understand something. There are three McDonalds between our house and Jenna's school. This is not po-dunk North Dakota (apologies, ND bloggers). This is the metro area, where McDonalds sprout from the clay about every 15 feet.

I point down the road--the next nearest golden arches are almost visible. "Well, I guess I'll go to that McDonalds and use the coupon."

She looks at me with a worried expression, glancing down the road toward the other McDonalds.

Again with the shoulder shrug, she says: "That might work."

That might work.

That might work.

Yes, I would think that might work. You stupid idiot. I didn't hate you, but now I do. Now I think your boss is back there snapping a picture of my license plate to zap over to the fucking data warehouse at McDonalds corporate, where McDonalds #2 is immediately alerted that a blue minivan is on the way, looking for McFlurries without waiting two hours.

Yes. That might be happening.

If trailers could fly.

Instead I say, "I think that will work."

And I drive off with Jenna crying for her McFlurry, and me explaining that we have to take a fourth trip through the drive thru tonight because mommy is saving money and McDonalds is stupid, and she tells me stupid isn't a nice word, and I say yes, but that wasn't nice to make us go through the drive thru four times because we had coupons. Then I agree not to call the lady stupid anymore.

Up the road, at the next McDonalds, sure enough, it does work. They didn't know me or my mini-van. They didn't know about the two-hour rule. The nice kid at the window handed me two McFlurries, charged me $2.00 and a few cents, and even gave me napkins. He looked happy to see the coupon.

And all the way home, I'm thinking, McWTF?


our blogbrother needs some our assistance

Michael O'Connor Clarke need some help. His baby is in the hospital, yet his life ticks on and he's slated to do a speech on corporate Intranets next week at the Corporate Communication & Technology Conference. As you can imagine, he doesn't have a lot of extra time to dig up information--he's spending a lot of time at the hospital. If you have any research or information to help him out, jump over and leave it in the comment box. Already left mine. And leave a warm prayer for Ruairi while you're there.

if you want to know what m-blogging's like, read hiptop nation

I'm still trying to find out if I laugh so hard because I have a HipTop, or if it's just that much fun. Learn what bloggers with little teeny tiny cameras and a T-Mobile Sidekick do all day.

We fly, we drive, we can't get out of bed, we attend lots of meetings, we drive some more, we eat food, we take pictures of food, we take lots of pictures of signs, we take pictures of stuffed animals, we take pictures of real animals, we don't mind looking silly, we actually enjoy looking silly, we make fun of ourselves, and we don't interact with one another on this team blog.

We just write and post pictures of really wierd and sometimes very mundane stuff.

That's why I like it so much.

Just wait though, I'm going to start drawing these hiptopers into conversations with one another, or at least with me. You'll see...

dusting off the floppies



In response to my post below about my days writing about b2b marketplaces (exchanges, hubs, digital marketplaces, which by any other name have still sparked and died out), Kevin Marks asks if our emusicXchange concept is similar to his mediaAgora, (beyond our use of a fancy capital letter in the middle of the name).

While I see interchange among the two concepts, emusicXchange, in our mind was a real, dynamic marketplace for the business of music. A better (for everyone) creative process and creative works (in the way of music) would be the result of making the business end of music easier and cheaper. The business of music is a necessary evil and almost always the pitfall for great artists. Our exchange was going to be about enabling everyone within the business--from musicians to composers to studios to engineers to venues to promotors etc. etc.--to have a gathering place online where they could conduct business.

Not so different from polymer plastic, huh?

I commented back to Kevin in my original post, but thought a picture I dug off of an old disk might help illustrate. Remember, this was 99-00. Be gentle.

And Kevin, I'll be back to talk about it more after I dig into your site. Duty calls.

(click image for larger picture)



feedback?

January 29, 2003

e-thrombosis?

Glad I got my HipTop when I did!

"Overzealous Volunteer"

Is that what they're calling PR people these days?

Thoughts on the wind to Canada

Our biggest blogsprog is sick and in the hospital. His temperature's down, and that's good. Michael and Sausage are waiting to find out what's made the baby sick. They're awaiting results from the battery of tests performed at the hospital.

There aren't words to express the anguish and worry they must be feeling, but through Michael's words both fear and love come across loud and clear. Michael, he'll be okay. We're thinking of you and your family and our special little blogsprog.

calling doctor blogger?

Any medical bloggers out there want to tell me if this kind of thing is common?. With three abdominal surgeries under my belt--or should I say uterus--I am feeling quite faint at the prospect of a Texas A&M logo branded on my most private of privates.

g--a--g.

Thanks (I think) dearest for the link.

(cross-posted on Blog Sisters)

!

This company appears to be gone, or at least badly demolished, and "several" people have been killed in a huge explosion. The site is down. The link above is cached from google. Waiting for news from North Carolina bloggers. Praying for families involved
.

jill millionaire

sleazy is as sleazy does. It appears that Joe Millionaire finalist Sarah Kozer revealed herself as a money chasing harlot long before stepping onto the set of JM.

According to The Smoking Gun, she starred in a series of fetish films before making her debut on FOX.

figures.

e-marketplace vendors, ye came and went too soon

ComputerWorld reports today that ebay's getting into the small-business emarketplace business.

Knock me over with a feather.

In the boom of 99-00, I spent a lot of time studying and working for clients who ran, participated in, or otherwise deified digital marketplaces, B2B exchanges, emarketplaces, e-commerce hubs, and any other name you want to give a genre of e-business that was ahead of its time or maybe never should have been at all.

Learning the difference between catalogs, auctions, reverse auctions, and real-time exchanges, learning the needs and preferences of buy-side and sell-side marketplace participants, learning the schematics of hubs, what made them tick, and ultimately why big business wasn't ready for them yet, was a study of technology and good ideas come too soon.

Procurement processes were vehemently hard-wired within big businesses, whose cast of procurers wasn't about to stop ordering goods the old fashioned way--even if that old way was as inefficient as faxing and phoning. Yes, supply chain efficiency was being embraced or at least given lip service to, but moving the trade of goods and services to an online marketplace was a big leap of faith to make.

In retrospect, making the grand leap into an online marketplace wasn't worth the potential return for most big businesses. Even if it meant those products would be cheaper and that they would arrive on time. Whether the "it" was paper clips or tractor engines, the leap looked pretty dangerous to the guys standing safely on the sideline. One reason for the lack of adoption was that trading in traditional procurement processes for participation in real-time exchanges dared to put a lot of jobs on the line. Usually the case when a business improves a process, whether that process hits only one link along the supply chain or traverses it.

This CFO article from 2001 explains a bushel of problems digital marketplaces began to come up against when the money-givers of the net began to shun the one-time darlings of e-commerce.

In the midst of it all, I watched a lot of really smart people and companies disappear. Some of the people I studied with then (and it was like going back to college) thought this was a pretty good idea when I had it nearly thee years ago. Unfortunately, it was an idea of many during a time when money was becoming scarce, even if ideas and dreams were getting cheaper.

The failure among businesses to adopt online marketplaces wasn't good news for me. Not for my dreams, not for a technology and business model I really thought could change the world. Not such good news for these guys either:

Ariba
Clarus
Idapta

...to name a few. These were all clients of mine, or competitors of clients, back then. VerticalNet is still around, but my how their language has changed!

They now provide collaborative supply chain solutions. Rather than use the word emarketplace, they now use lots of words to say the same thing. This, I guess, makes their customers less nervous: "Verticalnet is a leading provider of Collaborative Supply Chain solutions that provide customers and their trading partners the unmatched ability to see and manage spending, inventories, forecasts, plans, negotiations, contracts, orders and supplier performance so they can identify, realize and maintain savings across the extended supply chain."

Jokes on us?

The irony in all of this--or maybe it's not irony at all--is that in the time it took emarketplace companies to rise to stardom and fall off the planet, ebay's simple consumer-to-consumer auction model sailed along. Ebay has continued to turn consumers into businesses, and businesses into consumers. We're neither and both. We're just people who want to buy and sell stuff.

And now small businesses are people too on ebay.

Ebay's batch of small business marketplace participants are selling:

tractors and irrigation equipment
sensors, controls, and relays
disinfection, sterilization, and imaging equipment
motors, transmissions, and switches
and a whole lot more among the dozen industry marketplaces now represented there.

Ebay keeps erasing the boundaries for buying, selling, and trading anything online. It's cheaper. The specs are right. You get it fast. It's just what you needed. How much does it cost, can I get it by this date, how much if I buy 12, is it within tolerance? Sure.

Ebay was always closer to an exchange than anyone wanted to admit. Small businesses for now, but you know ebay.

All bets are off for how far they'll take it.

Old dog, new trick



Diva's a 12 year old mutt we've had since she was eight weeks old. She is by far the best dog we've ever had--and we've had plenty--welcoming a flock of strays into her domain over the years and mothering them all.

It's hard to watch her get old. Can't see like she used to, her occasional lameness, the life slowly ebbing from those old eyes.

But she's not done yet. Yesterday and today, she's found a new way to escape from our 1/2 acre fenced back yard. However she's doing it, her younger, boisterous male companion and designated pain in the butt, Bando, hasn't been able to keep up.

He barks from the backyard, letting us know that old Diva's run off without him again.

It takes a while for her to come home. I think about how in her younger days, in my younger days, I would have run off looking for her, worried about what could happen to her out on the streets.

But with age comes a certain amount of freedom. Every ten minutes or so, I step out onto the front porch and call her name. She doesn't come when I call her. Too deaf to hear, or too old to care, she comes back when she's ready.

And I see life in her eyes these last two days that I haven't seen in a long, long time. She bounds up the front steps, tail wagging, leaping at my sleeve as if to sy, "Hey, I had an great run; you should see it out there!"

I say, come on in old girl, give her a pat on the head, notice that her eyes look five years younger.

(cross-posted here.)

stringing voices together

Judith Burton on the Power of the Blog, via Doc.

January 28, 2003

OOOPS! I HAVE IT ALL WRONG!

++newsflash+++

This just in from Ruzz... who chose to remove me from his blogroll tonight because of my non-expressive tick-click post below:

Ruzzzzz says, "I don't want to poo poo her positive energy but I also don't want to read countless posts proselytizing a movement that is nothing more than a simplified means for expression. Somebody needs a reality check and I'm not reading, nor referring till that happens. Shes got talent too, mispent as it is. IMHO, great bloggers don't talk about the greatness of blogging --They blog great."

Okay. Lemme see what happened... my fear of quitting smoking, did I tackle that one? Yep, check, wrote that one. Lemme see, did I remember to start my mobile blog over on hiptop nation? oh yep, that's right, I expressed myself over there. Let's see... daycare, child rearing, death, parenthood, work, illness, hmmm. seems I remembered those topics this week...wha-happened?

OH FUCK! I FORGOT TO BLOG GREAT!

I hate it when I do that.

yawwwwwn.

realtime blogging of the State of the Union

Every now and then I unmuted him. I heard the following: Blah blah taxes bad, blah blah seniors good, blah blah children good, blah blah medicare good, blah blah alternative fuel good, blah blah partial birth abortion bad, blah blah cloning scary, blah blah blah AIDS prevention good, blah blah AIDS bad, blah blah going to spend money on drug rehab programs, blah blah...

[...drug rehab programs? $600 million for drug rehab programs? Did I hear right? what, his daughters can't get into someplace for free?]

blah blah Saddam, blah blah terrorism, blah blah freedom, blah blah military, blah blah disarm him.

no surprises.

Tick, Click, Tick, Click... The Fluidity of Blogging, a Year Later.

I've lately been harping about one single element of blogging that amazes me. It is, in my estimation, the simplest and most complex blogging truth: blogging is fluid.

Blogging is motion. Your blog is a full-length movie with an unwritten end, ticking frame by frame, simultaneously and with interwoven the plots of others. Blogging is a window into the present moment, and as our archives stretch into years and decades, a window into our headspace of the past opens. Of our triumphs. Of our mistakes. Of the space in between.

THAT single truth is what makes blogging a medium for growth like no other. Your growth, your change and transformation is taking place in parallel with other bloggers who are growing and changing.

Blogging is humanity exploding into the future.

Because blogs are also becoming part of our pasts.

The passage of posts is mostly silent. We don't notice that part. Tick. click. tick. click.

But look back. You'll see it. If not now, then a year or two from now. And if you don't see it, you probably won't be bothering to post a year or to from now.

I'll use myself as an example.

I wrote The Hyperlinked Mom a year ago to the day yesterday. I didn't know that when I opened it up today. I mean, I didn't know that this was the one-year anniversary of that blog's moment in time. It seems like three years ago. It seems like a dozen years ago in some ways. I'm not sure what made me go look at it again, except that I was thinking about blogging and fluidity. How that was a blog that "never went anywhere."

Maybe I was also looking for proof that I am not this day the person I was then. I am changed. Sure, our core beliefs and traits sustain. But something about me feels physically, emotionally, and spiritually different from having revealed parts of myself this past year and a half, here.

Revealing yourself. That is a big thing.

And sometimes the Revelation doesn't come until later, when you find out you weren't revealing yourself to others; you were revealing yourself to yourself.

Back to the hyperlinked mom thing.

In that short-lived blog I wrote this about the challenges and joys of raising our daughter at home her first four-and-a-half years, as we both worked out of the house. Our child-rearing-in-tandem-with-full-time-work, I now understand, zapped every ounce of patience and self-composure we thought we had then. This is what I know now.

Then, I saw it this way:

Today, I am virtually a full-time teleworker. While it's not for everyone, this lifestyle does offer women a way to merge work with home, and home with work, in an interesting--and often bizarre--way. With the advent of the Internet, physical distance and asphalt highways no longer separate work life and home life. Instead, within the networked landscape of the Internet, individuals, businesses, and customers are seamlessly connected. Technologies like Instant Messaging--which allows my clients to pop up urgent questions, and the occasional good joke, on my screen in real-time--erase distance. Here is there, and there is here, all at once. I can do research for the articles I write at night, when the house is quiet, from my couch, at the global library that is the net. For many, this infringement of corporate life into the home is unsettling. To my family, and to me, it has been a blessing.

Plain and simply, the Internet has enabled my husband and I to raise our daughter at home. Having her with us during these early years has been nothing short of amazing. These are years we will cherish--watching her grow, change, and shine. At the same time, teleworking has also kept us afloat financially and kept me engaged in a craft that I love. In a daily hyperlinked state of being, I jump between reading "I Spy," writing articles on e-business hubs, playing with our new "Bob the Builder" walkie-talkies, browsing the latest marketing theories on the Web, and teaching my daughter her numbers and letters. She even has her own blog now, which we try to update every day or two together. It's clearly not the life of choice for everyone--but it can be especially appealing to new moms as they weave their way through the challenges and options motherhood sets at their doorstep.


It sounds blissful, doesn't it?

It wasn't.

Does it sound like the me you know? Shit no.

I wasn't real with myself then. I couldn't afford to be. You can't understand. Can you?

Yes, you can.

The headspace I was in then was the only headspace I could afford to be in. We made the decision that we were not going to send Jenna to daycare, and the rest of it was pure improvisation. The last five years, essentially, just happened. Or did they? Who's driving? Who's guiding us? These are the things that only unfold when you look back.

The biggest motivator in our decision not to send Jenna to daycare was the horror my step-sister Christine went through. Because of the unending grief she has lived each day since her daughter died at four months old, died in an esteemed and highly-recommended private daycare. And while the legal term for Alexa's cause of death is "neglect," the realworld explanation of her death is that no one, and I mean no one, is a replacement for a child's parent.

Again, that word is: no one.

This is not an anti-daycare statement. Back then I would have proudly proclaimed that it was an anti-daycare statement. But not anymore. It remains, however, fact.

A parent's love for a child is the connection that rings a bell when something is amiss in another room, another part of the house, that something is wrong, that it's too quiet, too noisy, too still, not still enough, that maybe you should walk ahead or behind them, that something could be wrong while your child is supposed to be sleeping.

We don't always get it right. Being a parent in charge of your child does not guarantee success. The "I should haves" and "If only I hads" can happen anyway. The key word there, though, is "I".

In Alexa's case, while the other children at the daycare were having their Mother's Day photos taken, she was placed in another room, for safe keeping, right, sure, in her car seat, on a bed, on a water bed, and when the carseat tipped over--this is what Christine lives with--when the car seat tipped over, no one was there. No one was there to stop Alexa from suffocating to death.

no one.

The same age as I, born 11 days apart, my step sister went before me into the world of motherhood. Before I knew what it meant to be a mother, Chris suffered the most agonizing terror a parent can suffer. Chris' experience changed the course of how we would raise our daughter during her early years. If not for Chris, and Alexa, we may not have given the idea of sending Jenna to daycare a second thought.

But we did. From somewhere, somehow, from her precious presence and the agony of her absence, Alexa guided us in that decision.

Today I can tell you, this: I no longer judge a parent's decision to send their child to daycare or to raise them at home or to use some combination of things to keep themselves afloat. I know only this--what happened to Alexa steered us on the course we took. It didn't guarantee us success. It didn't guarantee us happiness. It wasn't righteous. It steered us.

Looking back on the results, the outcome of that decision, I have mixed feelings. It was not all flowers and roses. It was so hard. It did not make me the the best mother I could be. Maybe the worst. The days when I went into the office and greeted my child at the end of the day were the easiest days. I was refreshed from not having to care for her day in, day out while juggling work. To have your child at home or to go into work and create things with adults: which is easier? Work. Which is more rewarding? Home. Which is better, worse, right, wrong, here, there, smarter, sillier--that is no longer a constant in my mind.

But one constant remains for me. Christine today is someone I admire--admire beyond the words I say to her, or that I said to her then. Beyond any words I have ever said to her. I admire her for being a giving person. For growing up in the same household as I did. I admire her because she didn't lie down and die. Because she made a difference in the world of children. In the world of children in daycare. Because she did something with her grief. She didn't give in to guilt; that would have been the easiest choice.

And because she didn't quit, Chris and her husband now have two beautiful children who have benefited from having their mother home with them.

And now she has started blogging.

Who knows where she will take it. I see her entering it slowly, bouncing around a bit, finding her voice.

But wait. Let's watch.

What does all of this have to with fluidity and blogging?

I've drifted, haven't I.

No, not really.

I look back on that old hyperlinked mom blog of mine, and I think it was me not being real.

Me not saying, I'm afraid to send my child to daycare because I'm afraid something will happen to her. Me not saying, if you can't work from home and keep your kid there with you, then do what you can. Do what you have to do. Only you know if you're making the right choice for you and your child. Only you know if you're making the only choice you can, which, is not a choice at all. Which is what too many parents in America face. Especially single mothers.

That the Sessums had a choice, that George and I had careers pre-dating Jenna which allowed for flexibility--not easy flexibility, but flexibility still--was more accidental than purposeful. I didn't start writing one day because I intended to be a work-from-home mom. I started writing. Was blessed with a child. And made the best of it.

That's all. The aura of self-righteousness in the in-between was just that, an aura.

The last two weeks full of snow days, and the two weeks' Pre-K vacation before that, reminded me of what it was like to be home, to try to bill 40 hours a week, with a one-two-three-four year old tumbling off the bed, torturing the dogs, running over my DSL cord, with Jenna wanting me to close my laptop and play just as I had formed a sentence my client would like, then completely forgot said sentence, glaring at my little girl who thought she wanted a mommy who didn't work from home.

We do the best we can, and sometimes we do the worst we're capable of, and we blog it into the future.

And when we reach the future, we look back at where we were.

If we're lucky, if we're listening, if we dare to be real, we learn something. Something that changes us.

That's what I'm talking about.

HipShake

laughing my rear off.

...and you probably have no idea why.

my other blog is my hip

Jeneane Unplugged

watch for updates as I navigate the outside world, something I've avoided for the last two years so that I could stay inside and blog.

ught oh.

m-blogging fo-reallll.

Okay, I joined Hiptop Nation and it appears my m-blogging has begun fo-real, if not with some obvious issues as noted in my photography skills.



This ought to be very very cool.

more later...

January 27, 2003

Going Up in Blog

Disclaimer: To the in*surance company lowlife plants, who I'm sure are monitoring what we say here to use for their own purposes--i.e., to rape us of our benefits when we need them the most--I claim that the following post is completely fictional. I am not a smoker. I don't use Nicotine. Never much cared for the stuff.

How to quit smoking? It's time. I quit once for four years, quit during and after pregnancy, but me and butts go way back. I mean way. And now I need to wean myself from this addiction. Again. The last time I quit for any substantial amount of time was when Bill Clinton won his first term as President. Bill Clinton didn't influence my decision to quit. I miss him, though.

But about smoking. Bill Clinton's winning the White House didn't make me quit. It was more, well, I don't know, I woke up and figured I'd always remember the day I quit by marking it with the Presidential election. I also assumed at the time that he and Hilary were health nuts--healthcare nuts--and that the personal freedom of smoking would go up in smoke as quickly as the price of cigarettes would skyrocket. I was right about some of that. I'm not sure which part.

I found seven benefits from being a non-smoker after a long long stretch as a smoker:

1) Freedom: No more having to remember to bring a pack with me. No more running out at 11 p.m. to get a pack because to wake up without one was just too much of a stretch for my imagination. No more buying lighters. No more running to the ATM to get money to buy a pack or a carton, depending on the week and my particular level of stress.

2) Acknowledgement of the "present moment": Smokers escape the present moment by smoking. They live outside the moment every time they light up. Smoking is a welcome distraction from what is actually happening in your life, in the world, in your head. Smoking allows you to be "half present" at all times. This may seem like a benefit. Well, it is. Yes. Oh yes. But it is also a challenge within the confines of human relationships--like relationships with people who don't smoke, like your children. To step outside for a smoke when a child wants your attention is to abandon that child a dozen--or twenty--times a day.

3) Key Realization = It's "Okay" to do one thing at a time: When you smoke, you are always multi-tasking, even if the other task is simply thinking. You are making all the physical and psychological movements it takes to smoke, and you are almost always doing something else in tandem: talking on the phone, walking to the mail box, looking at the stars, calling your shrink. Quitting is admitting, it's okay to only do one thing at a time. I can survive if I slow down. That's hard.

4) Health: This is redundant. The physical benefits of not smoking are a matter of record. Breathing in and out being one significant health benefit.

5) Smell: You don't smell like smoke if you don't smoke. You save money on perfume and breath mints; your skin is not so dry because you aren't washing your hands every time you're going to meet with your boss or HR person.

6) Social Conformity: When smokers were forced to take their dirty little secret outside, a sub-culture sprang up. We are the sidewalk dwellers. We are the cool kids grown up. We share a common bond as thick as a tobacco field. When smokers go outside--whether we've ever met before or not--we like each other. Smokers are really nice people. Sorry, but that's a fact. We've grown nicer and nicer as we've been humbled and humiliated and sent to the dungeon to complete our sacred rites with our own kind. Somehow, that only makes us nicer. Because we feel good about the rest of you when we smoke. But when you quit, you are allowed back into average society. It's not the place any former smoker chooses to live, but life is a lot sunnier up there on the second floor.

7) Financial savings: Yah, well, there's that. Baaah.

As I read the benefits I've carved out above, I think that maybe I am ready to quit, again, and let blogging replace my smoking habit. Because a blogging addiction can replace many of the comforts smoking offers:

1) No Freedom: Having to remember to bring your hiptop with you--putting off going to bed at 11 p.m. because you have to get one more post in, being "stuck" on vacation without a connection and the ability to partake.

2) Living Outside the Present Moment: Blogging lets us do this. I don't pay attention to anything much when I'm blogging. I can ignore my family, friends, and animals. I can live and bounce among hyperlinks and remain completely distracted there.

3) Key realization = It's "Okay" to do twelve things at once. When you blog, you are always multi-tasking. You can be answering email, cutting HTML text, talking on the phone with work colleagues, and adding people to your blogroll all at the same time, without missing a beat. This helps to reinforce #2.

4) Health: This is redundant. Blogging offers many health hazzards to help shorten your life, or at least make it more painful. Carpel tunnel, eye strain, back problems, and let's not forget about the very act of sitting still for hours at a time--we are becoming blogpotatoes. These are all very important health detractors that blogging offers.

5) Smell: Why take a shower when I can post a blog entry instead?

6) Social conformity: Bloggers are the cool people of the net. We've taken our nasty habit and our dirty conversations outside the walls of business, family, religion, and every other imaginable social construct.

7) Financial drain: DSL, hosting, hiptop, graphics program, phone bills--blogging is a fine new money pit.

So, on second thought, maybe I'll quit blogging and keep smoking. I'm still not sure which one will be my final undoing.

Stay tuned...

January 26, 2003

Malcolm in the Middle?

Now Malcolm's really in the middle--in the middle of me and Farrago, because we apparently convinced him to start a blog to house that witty brain he tosses around the neighborhood. Can't wait to see what rises out of dohboy's place.

sunideus is about to get very, very cold.

And for a very good cause!.

Check out these crazies, and if you have a spare dollar for the Special Olympics, send it her way. She's legit and I trust her. You can see Suni and her work friends jumping in last year.

Since I live in Atlanta and have lately been complaining about the kind of cold I used to roll my eyes at up north, I can certainly spare $5 for those whose challenges humble me.

we're not alone.

Raising Hell: a new genre in parenting. Yahoo picks says, "This isn't an advice rag, and it won't tell you what your baby should be doing at three months or two years. Instead, the writers present new twists on parenting with liberal doses of wry humor that even singletons will enjoy."

How did I miss this site?

Thanks to madman for the link.

January 25, 2003

duuuhhhaaaammmm!



wow. she's really good. and will you look at her?

Serena kicks ass on this site.

she digs me!!!!!!!!!!!

Way better than a bloggie. Way better. This:



oh yah! Brooke says this about me:

"the blogger who most deserves to be in the bloggies because she is simply the blogger most in love with this community and what we do."

Dig it.

The Blogs I Eight This Week

Here are eight blogs I've stumbled across lately, ala my post below. They include, but are not limited to, demonstrations of fine writing, or humor, or rants, or pain, or all or none of the above. In no particular order, check 'em out:

a girl named bob - you name it, she writes about it. and then some. check out the freaky contact lens post.

Because I Say So - "buttery, bite-sized bits of tender bitchiness from your favorite Wandering Jew." Her words, not mine. Damnit.

Greg Beato - Greg, are you a relative? valentis? diminos? Rochester? You know Rick? just curious.

Blu - She loves my husband best, but that doesn't hurt my feelings. much. ;-)

citizen of the world, aka glovefox - what a fine writer! her post on bullies should not be missed.

dasheekee jones - you fucking go, girl.

Diary of a Madman - what did you expect, something galant and enchanting? I'm thinking he's one of Halley's alpha males. His boobs of the day pics are usually stunning, and ya, okay, I look at them. so what?

Friday Fishwrap - creativity on par with Gary Turner. Her fridge is on par with his too.

p.s., more to come...

there are so many great kick ass blogs out there I'm going out of my mind reading them and adding them to my blogroll like six times a day.

...and that doesn't count any of the bloggie also rans, which I haven't had a chance to check out yet.

Where did all these great blogs come from? I remember a year and a half ago stumbling around our little circle.

The circle doesn't have edges. I should have known. But words have edges. They are cutting me, these new blogs I'm reading.

I'm bleeding.

what are we going to do? what am I supposed to do? Where is the manual for what we do next?

I thought it would be different. I thought those who followed after us--you know--I thought we'd reach critical mass.

I thought a bunch of not-so-great wannabes would wind up here--listen to me, will ya, what kind of shmuck am I? I thought a bunch of, well, not very interesting people would wind up here and this place would not be the same and I'd get all crabby trying to find stuff to read.

But the opposite. I should have known.

There is so much great writing and thinking and humor and pain. And joy. But lots of pain. And fun. Did I mention pain?

I'm reading at least five or six new blogs a day. By accident. We're really cooking now. I'm hopping from my "regular reads" blogrolls into their "regular reads" blogrolls and I'm traversing humanity at light speed.

I'm imploding or something.

I need more eyeballs.

I need blogs on tape.

something.

I can't

keep

up.

THIS is just the coolest place.

blogging our journey

Our age is only one dimension of who we are. But it is a dimension. Isn't it? Or is it? This is what I was thinking, in relation to blogging, as I drifted to sleep last night. I enjoy reading bloggers of all ages--my blogroll attests to that. I have friends from the blog world on both sides of my 40 years.

But I do admit to an affinity for reading bloggers who wade around in the same 40-ish trenches as me. What they write, because of where they are in their journey from birth, often resonates with me. They're looking back at the hard stuff that brought them to this edge of mid-life, and they're looking ahead, lugging a backpack of worries and concerns not unlike my own.

Naturally, I hyperlink in my head to what blogging must feel like for the 20-somethings who've grown up online (like we didn't), and for the 60-somethings who are braver than most of my relatives of the same age for just being online. If bloggers are, in some way, a family--which many of us have said is so--then our ages, our birth order, do come into play in what we say, what we write, how we relate. No? I think yes. Not every post, certainly, but in the bigger picture of our blogs.

I think of how boring I must seem to some of the cool, hip, young bloggers who probably aren't so interested in my meanderings over my daughter, house, family, work. I think of how trite I must seem to some of the older bloggers who've walked this road before me.

They must want to shake me sometimes.

I think of Elaine who is a blogger, mother, grandmother, on the far side of 60. I try to put myself in front of her keyboard and wonder what it must be like to watch the younger bloggers leap, stumble, fall, and how if I were her, I would probably want to be forever saying, "Watch out!" or "Oh no, don't do that--I tried it and it did not, I mean not, work."

I admire Elaine and other bloggers of age for mostly taking a seat beside us as you watch us fumble along--sometimes succeeding, sometimes realizing, sometimes hesitating--on a road of years you've already traveled. For trying to stay positive and reassuring as we find our own way. Please do that--we need it.

And I am going to try to remember these thoughts I've had, 20 years from now, if I'm still here, if I happen upon a post of some 40-something blogger who's making her way through an unkind world as best she can, revealing herself online as she goes.

I'm going to take a seat beside that woman-I-once-resembled and maybe I'll place my hand on hers, just for a moment, as she looks out her window to the East, and I look out mine to the West, as we take this ride together.

January 24, 2003

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this.


(thank you Richard for the link.)

thanks to farrago, you will never run out of really cool popular blogs to read.

She who gave me an award (okay, well, if you're on her blogroll it's yours too... just look down by my amazon crap--you'll see what you've won) has a great post of all the varied Bloggie nominees complete with hyperlinks. I agree, whatever about the Bloggies, like, who cares, I wasn't nominated, no sour grapes here, whatever, they're young and cute or Oliver Willis, (dude, I'm kidding; you've been on my blogroll for over a year), and all that, so fine, it's not like these awards mean anything and the prizes aren't all that great, so really, like Farrago, I don't care or anything. BUT there are some really awesome blogs to get acquainted with in this list.

Maybe some of us loser bloggers will even break through the cool ceiling and end up on thhheeiiirrr blogrolls one day, or, or, or even win a Bloggie. gasp! What ever would I wear?

As a side note, I nominated Shelley, like, a half zillion times (yah, I figured Shelley would say now, don't do that I'm not all for those lame award things, but I did it anyhow because she inspires me), and I nominated a whole LOT of you folks in the initial voting. Poopers. I think I'm bad luck.

Ah well. All's well that ends.

May the Powers that Be Repeat Twain's War Prayer as They Close Their Eyes Tonight

George has a great post which begs the question, "How do they sleep at night?" His post details a war oposition manuscript that was apprently written by Mark Twain but never published. It has a pretty heavy ring for the bell that tolls for us all right now, with words like this:

..."help us to wring the hearts of their unoffending widows with unavailing grief; help us to turn them out roofless with little children to wander unfriended the wastes of their desolated land in rags and hunger and thirst, sports of the sun flames of summer and the icy winds of winter, broken in spirit, worn with travail, imploring Thee for the refuge of the grave and denied it..."

I dug a little deeper and came up with more info on when and why Twain couldn't publish his 'War Prayer'. The page is pretty pop-up intensive, so here's what it says:

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Mark Twain wrote "The War Prayer" during the Philippine-American War. It was submitted for publication, but on March 22, 1905, Harper's Bazaar rejected it as "not quite suited to a woman's magazine." Eight days later, Twain wrote to his friend Dan Beard, to whom he had read the story, "I don't think the prayer will be published in my time. None but the dead are permitted to tell the truth." His editor was "responsible to his Company," he explained, "and should not permit laughs which could injure its business." In his private notebook, Twain expanded his thoughts about the rejection of the story into a series of maxims about freedom of speech:

None but the dead have free speech.

None but the dead are permitted to speak truth.

In America -- as elsewhere -- free speech is confined to the dead.

The minority is always in the right.

When the country is drifting toward Philippine robber-raid henroost raid, do not shirk your duty, do not fail of loyalty, lest you win and deserve the reproach of being a "patriot."

The majority is always in the wrong.

Whenever you find that you are on the side of the majority, it is time to reform.(1)

Because he had an exclusive contract with Harper & Brothers, Mark Twain could not publish "The War Prayer" elsewhere and it remained unpublished until 1923 when his literary executor, Albert Bigelow Paine, included it in Europe and Elsewhere. A decade earlier, Paine published long excerpts from the story in Mark Twain: A Biography.

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For the whole War Prayer, hop over to george's place.

a southern belle enjoys the snow.

who knew our digital camera took movies?

Jenna Waves

okay, it's a first try. gimme time.

proving once again, it's not the quantity, it's the quality

halleys world

I've been on the fence about Halley's alpha male writing of late. The writing is great, don't get me wrong, but the alpha male categorizing seemed somehow hollow to me. I know if a male blogger came out with lessons on how to win a girly-girl, he'd be publicly spanked (and probably like it).

But Halley's post today put it all in perspective for me. It's beautiful writing with an undeniable ring of truth. It's sensitive and insightful. You go, girl.

nothing to say

Swamped with work, jenna sick, me sick, nothing to do but plod along. And I don't seem to have anything to say.

Stay warm Atlanta bloggers. It's Rochester cold down here. Jenna's school's been closed for two days, and one day last week for MLK day, and the Friday before that for non-existent snow. I told her how we used to have to go to school in the deep snow when I was a kid in Rochester, and sometimes the snow was so high we kids would have to form a human chain to walk to school, holding hands as we made our way down Somershire Drive, walking in a rut between banks of snow twice our size so that no one got lost in a drift along the way.

She said, "Well, our snow's not that high here, so I don't have to wear a hat, right?"

I guess she got the point.

January 23, 2003

Blogging from the hip, err, the bed

There's something about the freedom the href="http://www.danger.com">hiptop gives me that is very special.
Yeah, the camera ia fun, and talking into a handheld turned telephone
gives you a kind of james bondesque look, but the keyboard is what makes
this thing a blogomatic.

I'm here in bed with the covers pulled tight against a particularly cold
Atlanta night, and I'm blogging myself to sleep. That is to say, I'm
writing myself to sleep. Lights off, these keys glow with a light I can
only describe as moon against snow.

I watch my words wirelessly fill up this tiny screen, and I'm lulled
into slumber by the magic of this world we've built and are building.

And I'm free. Free from cords and bulk and wires and my couch-office.
Free to bring you with me.

For a good read tonight on voice, stop over at href="http://weblog.burningbird.net">Shelley's place.

Night.

January 22, 2003

categorize me, please?

like a dog with a bone?

sit ooboo, sit?

fashion accessories and a whole lot more?

This blog needs a tagline. I was reminded of this in looking at the Bloggies, noticing a whole category was devoted to such. NO I'm not interested in one so I can weasle my way in to an award next year. Insted, I've been observing that, as blogs have multiplied, so too have creative names and taglines. Just check out the finalists. Cool fricking names. Cool fricking mastheads. Cool fricking taglines.

I got nada.

When I started this ole place, I didn't think much about the name at all. I had no rhyme or reason to choose it, except that I had already started Gonzo Engaged and had some cronies over there I felt kindred to. I also thought an "A" name might be good for getting listed near the top in blogrolls that alphabetize. Okay? I admit that.

The problem for me in saying what this blog is about is that it's still pretty fluid. In progress. Moving target. Me jumping through life's strings. So I never have been able to think up a good descriptor for this blog.

That's where you come in. Need your help. It's open forum, folks.... who's gonna give this blog a tagline? Who can tell me what the heck this place is all about?

new blogroll material

Go here for a list of also rans for the 2003 Bloggies. Only a few in each category made it to the final round voting now taking place.

Okay, I was in on the first round voting. A whopping NONE of my nominees, many of whom live in my blogroll over there on the left, made it to the finals, or are even listed in the bigger list. So there. I'm sorry all of you whom I read. I tried.

On the upswing, I do think the full list of choices Brian posted gives us some great blogs to check out--I haven't heard of many of them. I plan to investigate in the next couple days.

I did happily trip upon little yellow different. Don't vote for LYD in the GLBT category, because, says Ernie, he's just not gay enough. (Fortunately Ernie is American enough, Humorous enough, and Best-of-the-Year enough to be listed in three other categories too.)

Off to explore these cool new-to-me blogs now. If nothing else (since the prizes are pretty lame), maybe the Bloggies will enlarge and speed the intersection of the thousands of circles of bloggers out there simply by lending us a window into blogs we might not otherwise have come across.

Right Ernie?

just tired and in a bad mood

that happens sometimes, right? when you question everything because everything gives you reason to question. That, and, I'm facing a week-long spree of hell getting a big proposal done. Really hell and really big.

And you know what happens next, right? Well, mothers know. You do, right? I went to pick Jenna up from pre-K this afternoon, and what did the teacher tell me? Sure, mothers know. She's been complaining of a sore throat and ear ache all day, a headache, she's coughing. Oh, and of course, "One's already been diagnosed with strep this week."

Already defeated. Making the best of it. Will blog as time and energy allow.



get down, get incensed in imaginary pastures



All work freely licensed, except for my words - my scent is jasmine.



January 21, 2003

raaaaaaaw raaaaaaaaw raaaaaaaaw!

This is the sound of Jenna chasing Hunter the kitten through the house.

"IT'S HARD TO TAKE CARE OF THREE PETS!"

That's what our five-year-old Jenna cries as she carries the kitty in one arm to no particular location, while using the other to strong arm the big young dog Bando, feeds the old dog Diva a treat, topping it all off by now crying on the couch after chasing the cat upstairs to his bathroom offering to put "some sauce" on his food--what kind of sauce? we still don't know.

"STOP!" We yell in unison. Don't put anything on the cat's food.

This results in a meltdown. We've hurt her feelings. She had an idea. To put sauce from the fridge on the cat's food. The cat eats Iams (dry), not sauce. We know this. She doesn't know or care.

Cut to scene two, right now as I blog in the living room--or try to--while the cat is grabbing my DSL cord and Jenna stops the household short with this phrase: "OH NO! DIVA HAS A FLEA ON HER--AN ORANGE FLEA! IT'S HUGE!"

Against my better judgment I investigate. An orange flea has me worried.

Where? I ask.

"RIGHT THERE!" she points.

And the orange crayola crayon wrapper falls to the carpet.

Not a flea, a crayon wrapper.

And now as Jenna drops to her knees to follow the cat and the old dog around the house on her knees, she tells me, "Your whole family's coming mama!"

Just another day at the zoo.

January 18, 2003

Atlantic Avenue

If not for the trees
thick pines and
The sturdy willow
Whose branches
Held the frayed rope
Knotted
At either end
To hold my hand-cut
Swing seat

If not for the red barn and
Two towering haylofts
Doors underneath
Leading to musty rooms
Of tools and pitchforks
Arranged and waiting
To startle
Trespassing children
With clangs and rattles

If not for the braided rope
Draped from the rafters
Welcoming knees and
Sunbrown arms
Wrapped tightly
Digging fingers in
Drawing a final breath
As a helping hand
Sent us swinging
Higher than children
Should

If not for the cushion
Made of straw and
Barn swallow feathers
On the planks below
Catching us
When we let go at
the just right time

If not for your glossy
White bedroom and the
Tall antique bed where
You did your dying
in paisley pajamas
Dark circles where
Your eyes used to be
An oak tray table
Holding food you
Couldn't eat

If not for that farm
That barn that bed
Your eyes,
I wouldn't remember
A thing.

the mouth sent me

blu sent me to the swapingtons, a site where we online nuts will be swapping books, CDs, DVDs, and who knows what eventually (RageBoy and Paynter, send ideas to them, not me).

If you sign up, please show blu your love by using her as a referrer on the signup page. Her referrer name is themouth.

or, you can use me as your referrer: allied.

Then get others to sign up using you as a referrer. By doing this, you earn points, which you can eventually use to swap cool stuff with other cool people.

I'm wondering about postage. Haven't got that far. I dunno. I'll try anything twice.